Sentimental Crashes

in LeoFinance20 days ago

With the risk of sounding nihilistic, what we do doesn't really matter much. At least in the grand scheme of things. We might think that we are important as a species, but at the end of the day, we are just here for a short time, and no matter what good or damage (mostly damage) we do, we will be gone in what is a blink for the universe, and it will never know we have existed, because it doesn't know anything. We can add all the anthropomorphisms we want to humanize it, but it is not conscious.

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Nature, is a perfect energy exchange pool with the utmost efficiency, swapping energy from one thing to another, with no wastage, as anything lost in the process, gets used somewhere else, transferred into something else. It is quite an incredible system, and what we should be looking to accomplish with an economy. However, man-made processes are always going to be imperfect and flawed, because we have a problem that nature does not.

We have preferences.

And, we don't just have preferences, we have needs. We favor some conditions over others, because we must. For instance, while nature doesn't care what climate the earth's atmosphere has, we can only really survive in a narrow band of weather and environment. Change the makeup enough, and we disappear. Even if the entire earth gets sucked into a sun and burned to nothing, the energy transfer pool just makes the swap.

The universe isn't sentimental.

None of this makes living life meaningless, it just makes it futile. Just because something is pointless in the grand scheme, it doesn't mean we can't find meaning in what we are doing right now and throughout our lifetime. And this makes me question what we should be doing, and what actually matters to the individual.

Over the last however long, we have been told to maximize the self, where as long as it makes the individual happy, it is fine to do. To "each their own" as long as you don't hurt anyone else.

Directly.

It is okay to hurt people indirectly, isn't it? After all, if we know that something is bad for us at scale, why would we keep supporting it? Because it costs too much to change, like investing into moving to renewable energy over fossil fuels? But, what does "costs too much" mean in terms of economics? It is just energy transfer in the form of money, moving from one industry to another. The economy doesn't care where money flows, it just tracks it.

We care.

Well, some of us care. And when it comes to hurting a traditional industry that lobbies and gets support from governments, and the richest people in the world profit from; They care very much. So convincing a change in energy transfers isn't well supported. If we shift our preferences to the advancement of wellbeing, the speed at which innovation can happen in key areas of energy, health and environment, could be quite extreme. The best minds in the world working together for solutions to real problems, instead of building more war machines, or financial derivative mechanisms.

But, if we take maximizing the individual to the extreme, why would anyone choose to try and cure a cancer, or save an animal, or clean up the environment, as the path to cure is a bitter road. It doesn't feel good to continuously fail, does it? It is interesting to note though, that the people who generally support the "whatever makes you happy" paradigm, are also those who add the least value to society. Those who are adding tend to realize that in order to generate value, a lot of things have to be done that aren't that enjoyable.

Maybe the only one I can prove is here is me, because I think and can observe my thoughts, but that isn't really an excuse for living an individualistic existence. Perhaps the point of life as a social animal is to be part of society, to be part of trying to build something better, to make a positive difference, to decrease suffering. It might not be the fantasized life of a hedonist, but maybe it is a better quality of experience.

And if this a simulation, what does winning look like?

So much of our activities are driven by money, because we have essentially lost sight of our purpose as a community. Instead of just being a marker to track the transfer of what matters, we have made the marker what matters instead. As a result, the activities can be misaligned with what we need to survive, what we need to thrive, and instead be busy work created to keep the numbers ticking up, while everything else crumbles down.

If nature had a preference, it would lead to failure too. Perhaps that is what the big bangs are. Nature previously monopolized itself until there was nowhere to go, no more growth possible, so everything stopped, stagnated, and died. And then, it crashed and started it all again.

Sounds familiar.

Preference economies will always crash. And because they can choose to protect themselves so that they can keep monopolizing, the crashes get more and more severe, until there is no coming back. Why do we hold onto what we have?

Sentimental value.

Taraz
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We are actually a temprorary livingbeing and we will be nothing one day...

Back to where we came from :)

I've actually been wondering what the point of everything is lately anyway. Like you said our time here is a blip and most of it just ends up being pointless. I think I'm just depressed because my dog died though. I am sure in a month I will feel differently.

I think I'm just depressed because my dog died though.

:(

I am sure in a month I will feel differently.

I think so. Unless you dive deeper and realize people suck. :D

Well, I already know that!

I used to say that given enough time, even the stars die.

Everything ends - some things end themselves.

This will get us to the second time paradox. Do you know how the most brilliant minds in the movie tell us how the smallest change in the past can affect the present, but nobody really insists on how the smallest change in the present can totally change our future.

The past is gone, and the future is not here yet, so the best way to live is to totally be in the present, living fully right now.

Do you know how the most brilliant minds in the movie tell us how the smallest change in the past can affect the present, but nobody really insists on how the smallest change in the present can totally change our future.

This is a funny thing to highlight! :D
Laugh at the right time, future utopia.
Sneeze at the wrong time, future dystopia.

But it won't crash this time, it will be different, because the people doing the literal exact same things as the people before them think they're better educated.

Better education, same wall we are banging our head on :D

"It'll work this time because we know better because we're better educated!"

We are all motivated by our desires and that tends to decide what we care about. I don't think most people consider the people indirectly affected at all. After all, people tend to think about their situation and never bother to go out of that unless someone points it out to them.

I don't think most people consider the people indirectly affected at all.

Most people don't even dive into understanding how they are indirectly affected by things either, so I guess thinking about others is even more unlikely. It is like people who complain about the price of things and the lack of money, but don't learn about economics and investing, because it is boring.

Nobody has the absolute truth, although at a collective level it may seem that we are not so important, each one of us contributes our grain of sand to improve or destroy our society. It is a matter of a few years before some power madmen push the button and it is all over for many people when they do not find a clear purpose. They take refuge in beliefs. To give more meaning to their lives

I just hope that when they push that button, it falls on my house and I don't have to live in a post-apocalyptic world.

It is sad to think that there will be a generation that will have to live through these events, we have not learned anything, every year the world powers come out showing their new weapons of mass destruction, it is sad, but we have not evolved at all.

This is one of the basic mysteries of life. Finding meaning to living is a lifelong endeavor that a lot don't get to find out. Most just mindlessly go about their day like a routine, while some find meaning in helping others. Lately, a lot of people have stopped trying, and just live in the moment. I don't think that's wrong, they are free to choose how they live. But what is wrong is when they hurt other people because of their selfishness.

I don't think that's wrong, they are free to choose how they live.

Yes, we all are. The "saints and the sinners".

But, what if the saints are indirectly doing harm in their selfish pursuit of doing good?

I think this type of discussion will lead to a downward spiral to muddy waters. An example of these "saints are indirectly doing harm in their selfish pursuit of doing good" I can think of are environmental activists and maybe vegan activists. They block roads, harass people, etc. Between those and the ones that actually kill, injure, and commit heinous crimes, I think I prefer the 'saints'. We just need to make the laws clearer about these things.

I remember some dark retort about saving the environment. That if people really wanted to save the environment, they shouldn't have children and even off themselves because they contribute wastes in some shape and form. What I'm getting at is that for everything we do, there will most likely be some inversely affected. We just need to try to do the least harmful.

I think this type of discussion will lead to a downward spiral to muddy waters

Oh, I agree. All waters are muddy in terms of social morality. I would rather people try to do good and fail, than do nothing to try and improve things at all. There are always going to be arguments over what is right and wrong, but if we get our actions right more than wrong, we will at least head in a better direction.

Oh in an ideal world, that is easily attainable. But with our world that has different values and teachings, that is difficult if not impossible. An example would be religion. A lot of people have different interpretations of Islamic teachings. A lot are peaceful, but there are also those that are violent. To those that are violent, what they are doing is right, but for everyone else it is wrong. For environmental activists, blocking roads and causing problems for others is right because it helps them get more exposure for what they are fighting for; but is wrong for everyone else, especially those affected.

but if we get our actions right more than wrong, we will at least head in a better direction.

What is right and wrong for us might be the opposite for others. What could be a better direction for us, can be a worse direction for others.

Everyone will leave the world someday and that’s why we should always do Justice to whatever we do
I believe the rich ones hurt people the most because they always want to achieve something and they will go extra mile to achieve it at the detriment of others

I am not so sure if the rich hurt the most, but it is a different kind of hurt.

The meaning of life for a specific consciousness can only be if consciousness is preserved (after the death of the material carrier). Some evolutionary process is not in the material world. This will probably be possible among our distant descendants. Maybe this is possible now.

Maybe we can never get to that point. Perhaps it is like my friend said, we advance so far, then go into a state where we stop advancing.

Dear @tarazkp !

I assumed you were probably sad because your dog died!

Dear my bro!
I hope you understand my awkward English!😂