The First Experience Of Being Downvoted On LeoFinance

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Hello once again, fellow HIVE users from all around the world as well as dear readers from both HIVE and outside of it. For today's last personal blog post on my personal blog as well as here on the LeoFinance community, I just wanted to share the fact that today was the first experience of mine being downvoted through a series of normal posts of mine here on the LeoFinance community.


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While I do not know exactly why this happened (and, frankly speaking, at the moment I wouldn't really like to know why), I would like to thank those who downvoted my posts on no grounds (there were massive downvotes by dolphins and orcas while we are at it) and still wish them plenty of success here on HIVE.

However, as a personal opinion if I may, I don't think that this is a productive approach, namely to downvote smaller users such as minnows but, given the fact that they have the power to do so, the respective users can do whatever they want with it, after all...

I would've expected at least several arguments in the comments' section but it was just plain hate, at least so do I perceive it. If you've been massively downvoted lately by some dolphins and orcas here on LeoFinance or in general here on HIVE, please let me know in the comments' section of this post as I am rather curious about your experience as well (and very sad about it too).

All the best and plenty of success here on HIVE to everyone (even those who downvoted me and/or other minnow users)...

P.S.: As an additional personal opinion, if I am allowed please, I strongly think that the downvote button can become an abuse sometimes, an abuse of power namely by the strong given to the weak. I previously thought HIVE was so much better than that but today I was shown that, albeit HIVE still being an awesome community, there are isolated cases of plain hate and ruthless downvote carried by some dolphins and orcas to a minnow like me who just keeps on writing original content here on HIVE to the best of my capabilities...

Interestingly enough, those users downvoted posts related to peace, health, and music... and I can't see that much charity badges on their profiles if I am to check them, albeit being very, very rich here (at least compared to me). I wonder how would these things describe them...

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It's the frequency of your posts.

As in, you are posting so many times it looks like you are farming.

I won't cast aspersions on your character in a snide passive aggressive manner like you did mine and others though

Oh I see, thank you very much for your clarification. With all due respect, your assertion that I am farming (whatever that might mean to you) is nonsense to me. And I haven't mentioned who downvoted me. For the purpose of this post, I won't even, because it's pointless... And, just so you know, lately I was giving many of my rewards to a charity cause here on HIVE and I also donated ecency points in the past to other users. So I do not intend to 'farm' as you say because it's no point for me in that. I am not that selfish or greedy.

As for my character, fortunately it's not like yours as I won't downvote your comment even though it is a false claim on my HIVE activity. That is a major difference of character between you and me for example, regardless of how rich you are here on HIVE. Continue to amass more HIVE and downvote others because you can and because you think others are 'farming' (especially minnows like me, of course, how else)...

P.S.: And if you think I am lying, just compare the NFTs for peace for Ukraine board/panel from my account to yours. Perhaps you will see a major difference there in such a comparison and, perhaps, you will know who behaved in passive aggressive manner with a frequency of downvotes and who is actually farming as in amassing more HIVE. Am I, after all, an orca or a dolphin, heh? 😁

I will say it again. Your posting frequency makes it look like you are farming.

Maybe you aren't. Maybe you are just spamming.

That better?

PS. You can get an NFT for wiping your arse these days so I don't see why I would care what ones you have

Thank you very much for your very beautiful, polite, and civlised response. For your information, I am not spamming. I just happen to have a lot of things to share while not gaining too many rewards. And, regardless of how rich you are, please refrain from using words which aren't suitable to a polite debate here. Of course I know you don't care. If you would, why would you reply in such an offensive manner? Making false accusations and claims like that only reinforces what I previously wrote before my eyes at least. You can have all the support you want from other rich users here. It's exactly as in the real world.

P.S.: I did not name you when referring to those who downvoted me. It's not my point. And, once again, stemming from someone so rich and influential like you here, what exactly do you mean by farming?

You forgot beautiful as well as rich and influential 🙂

In your mind perhaps. No one asked you anything right now in that respect, so you should know when to stop. Your arrogance and rudimentary English vocabulary in terms of insults just go to show the contrary, at least before my eyes... If you really were to insult me professionally and efficiently (on no normal grounds I might add), you should've used better and more intelligent terms (or is it that money can't actually buy that?).

If you think that was truly funny, you certainly have an attitude problem, regardless of how financially rich you are here on HIVE. Perhaps one day you'll learn that money is merely an illusion and that is not as important as you might think it is (only on a fallen Luciferian, lost planet like this, still solely up to a certain extent). A very wise advice if I might add: money can't buy many important things in life, most notably common sense, even if you are right in some penalty decisions towards other users (that, coupled with more intelligent insults).

P.S.: Your comment regarding the NFTs was disgusting and it certainly goes to show how low your empathy, respect, and emotional intelligence truly is, before my eyes at least. Instead of low, come to really think of it, I would replace it with inexistent, once again at least before my eyes... And there is nothing to smile about, ruthless Satanist (since your description doesn't seem to be merely a cynical joke, not a very bright one while we are at it...).

Lol. You seem to be obsessed by other people's "wealth".

And for the record, as you don't appear to be the sharpest tool in the shed, you are the one casting aspersions and insults on others. I have accused you of little only told you how your behaviour looks. Which you really don't like.

Its hard when someone holds up a mirror to you, eh?

Lol. If you thought that was disgusting you must be a fragile soul.

Good job I didn't post my original comment which was "no one gives a fuck about your NFTs" 🤣

At the same time, is there a very strict rule on the frequency of posts? If it is, then the HIVE algorithm should probably ban me from posting way too much. But, regardless if you believe me or not (you wouldn't because you are even too rich to give a damn on my opinion), I did not do it for personal gains. Some dolphins and orcas here can do that though and no one would be against them. How odd, isn't it?

P.S.: You have my word that I am not farming for anything and that I still intend to do charity here on HIVE. I do not use HIVE in order to become rich or to downvote others, regardless of the frequency of their posts, so long as their posts are well written, not spammy, and on good ideals and music while we are at it.

Most people post four times or less. The limits aren't governed by the chain but by community consensus.

Welcome to the community. 🙂

Well, thank you very much for letting me know this. I just did not know it. I'll keep this in mind for the future. I'll also take a look in the future whether you will keep downvoting me even with this aspect respected.

P.S.: I've been around on Steemit and on HIVE since 2016 onwards. I'm not quite a newbie, but nowhere near as rich and as influential as you, of course. 🙂

Post 1/day. At your quality that is a safe bet. Otherwise you will be downvoted.

I see, thank you very much for your clarification! I will keep that in mind! All the best!

At the same time, it would be nice to please let me know what you mean by 'at your quality' so I will know in the future what quality I have here. Thank you very much in advance!

Also, you are referring to posting 1 post per day in communities, not on my personal blog, right?

1 post per day ever.

There is no difference between community or personal blog. They all show up on hive blockchain.

Anything more can be downvoted regardless of content.

Now please stop talking

'dragă prieten' @vikthor !

I enjoy reading your easy English every day!

So, I have a hard time understanding the actions of those who vote against you!😯

They downvoted me because of the frequency of my posts, or so one claimed, but perhaps they have other reasons as well, I wouldn't be surprised. I would just pay a little bit more attention on their vocabulary (which isn't exactly Hemingway style) in order to see the exact underlying issue of their plain hate. It doesn't affect me that much either, why would it, but it just goes to show the character of some downvoters. And I wasn't the only one downvoted. You can clearly see the haters/downvoters and the hated in a very summarised manner here. I am barely the last downvoted but there is a really great user on the top of the downvoted list who got massively downvoted. On which exact grounds, I haven't got the faintest idea...

P.S.: I did not and still do not want to name users as this is pointless. They wouldn't even care and only resort to insults either way (and not the most intelligent or accurate ones while we are at it)...

Thank you so much for your beautiful comment! I am very grateful to you. No worries, this happens... It's just like in the real world...

Downvoting happens. It could have been a situation that a downvoting trail hit you. This means that me person downvoted you and if they had people that followed their downvoting trail, then they all would have downvoted you.

Downvoting is just another form of curation and can be used as the community sees fit. It’s trying to protect the chain from spam, plagiarism, and now people are downvoting for AI content. We want the rewards distribution to be earned fairly, well as fairly as possible.

There is a group called Hive watchers that likes to think they are the plagiarism gods and if they see you are not writing your own content, they will blacklist you hard. And they are not pleasant people to deal with either. But this is in an effort to protect the rewards pool from crap content. That being said, I don’t know what got downvoted, but generally there is a reason for it. It would be nice if those that downvoted would leave a comment as to why, but that rarely happens.

I don't use AI for writing my articles and I don't even know how. Even if I would know how I would still not use it because it's not useful, authentic, moral, and normal, all the more here on HIVE. I was primarily downvoted on posts on peace, health, and music (it seems those who downvoted me are not Paul McCartney fans and not very charitable either although they are very, very rich here on HIVE).

The reason why these sort of people downvote is because they can and because they want to show something to the world, specifically who they are, which is fine by me. I don't think they would leave a comment as to why they downvoted because they are far too important and far too rich to even consider replying to minnows here. They just downvote because they can and because they like this very, very much. Would they have such a well developed conscience and emotional intelligence as to why would they downvote on peaceful posts which were original, well written, and did not include any insults towards anyone? Of course, not. Because, as you say, downvoting happens, and, as in real life, it is the most economically powerful that will hit hard the poor people. Why? Because they can, because they don't care, and because they like it very, very much. That's what they live for, right? Just some thoughts...

P.S.: If you just check my HIVE blog, that is you have the time and would like it, you will see what exactly got downvoted.

a) it was not spam;
b) it was well written in English;
c) it did not contain insults or hate speech of any sort;
d) it adhered to the general rules here on HIVE;
e) it was about peace;
f) it was about Paul McCartney (those users must really hate The Beatles but I don't quite think they are Rolling Stones fans either);
g) it wasn't written at all by AI (I haven't even installed ChatGPT or whatever that's called; one former university groupmate of mine showed it to me last year and we both laughed at it, that was the entire experience I had with it testing it a bit);

In addition, they are very rich users which means they don't care that much about charity, peace, music, original content, minnows, etc. It's just their way and their way alone and if they want to downvote you they will because that's all they can do on your posts. In general, if I don't like a particular topic or post here on HIVE I leave it alone. I am more into appreciation and not downvote. Obviously, this is what sets me apart from those very, very rich users even though I am a minnow and believe me that I am very grateful I am not like them. That is a blessing to me! All the best! 🙂

Looks like you are getting hit with a downvote trail. Most are not very big accounts. There is one that has some weight to it, but none of them are what I would consider “Rich” on the chain. There is one Orca hitting you, but again, looks like part of a DV trail and that individual may not know that their account is downvoting you.

Hmm... very interesting. Thank you very much for letting me know. I really appreciate your help! I would only call it rich in comparison to me, naturally. And, of course, rich financially here on HIVE by my standards of analysis and comparison with the little I have. Not that that would matter now... I see what point one made and he is right. But I did not intend to cause harm to the community or do something against it, on the contrary. I'll just limit myself by one post a day here on HIVE, knowing it's not such an open space as I once used to know it... Thank you very much for your concern and all the best! Plenty of success here on HIVE and in general!

I didn't read comments, just looked at downvotes, but yeah, looked like you were posting ALLOT. For 'posts' I would limit it to like maybe 3-5 a day, I would do 5 MAX. But then there is Ecency Waves and Inleo Threads where those short form Twitter style posts are technically 'comments' so it's not effecting the rewards pool as much as people don't tend to vote very high on those. So have at it with those, lol.

Thank you very much for your comment. I will just limit myself by one, wisely enough. All the best!

Yeah, I normally do 1-3 major posts a day and then mix in some short form Waves or Threads

I would suggest more authentic content.
I would also suggest powering up what you are given.
It's up to you how this goes forward.
You've done well, so far.
Much better than many people that have bumped up against 'the community' rules.
Good luck.

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Thank you very much for this comment, this badge, and your constant support! As I previously mentioned and promised, I will keep on levelling up the remainder of my NFTs for peace for Ukraine. All the best and plenty of success! 🙂

That's wonderful to hear, @vikthor! Your continued support for peace in Ukraine is truly commendable. All the best in your endeavors!

Thank you very much for your kind response! All the best to you once again!