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RE: Further community incubation thoughts and possible plans

in OCD4 years ago

guide users posting content that could fit better in the communities we're now support is that, when being told not to post there many seem to get overly defensive, not realizing we're asking them to do so for the health of the platform in mind.

This has been an eye sore when browsing some potential communities to join in. Strangers joining a community without interacting and posting topics irrelevant to what the community wants to see.

Maybe some layer of verification done by the community mod/leader prior to seeing the post visible on the community page of peakd. It doesn't prevent the person from posting on the community page. It just adds a layer of protection from spammy posts being visible on the community page.

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That is a problem in several communities. They are still a rather new concept and some are handling it better than others. Most of the communities have discord chat rooms available, I don't know how often they get used, and another way to support the community owners is when they make a ruling about a post not fitting the subject matter of the community, support their decision and avoid the *well you should make an exception for them they are new and didn't know".

I know @midlet caught a lot of flack for some actions and post he made for his On Chain Art community. People want community rules but they don't seem to think they apply to themselves. Now you can go to On Chain Art and see post that fit in the community and not a lot of spam, because he took care to get his community off the ground right from the start.

There are a few communities that are well managed, and if there is a particular one you are interested in, but it is a mess, ask to be a mod, and try to clean it up.

I agree so much. Well there is noone to clean and manage the communities other than ourselves. Some people just post something and that is it. Some are posting, engaging, and also trying to figure out how to develop the whole community. If everybody would do it, would be a whole different thing

Yes some just post what ever they want in what ever community seems to be having the larger payouts hoping they can catch one, and them crying when they get muted, or worse down voted, for not following community standards.

Yes, totally agree, well I think the rules should be simple. If you have what to post about, and the theme that fits too, you can. If no, them i guess it fits somewhere else, but not there. If you want to catch the bigger vote, just write about the right theme

This is why I feel like muting is such a nice feature in Communities. It hides the post without having to "attack" the user. The only downside is it's extremely time consuming to constantly be going through all the posts and cleaning.

I think the missing feature is having the communities be able to get a beneficiary cut with posts, so that when the community grows, the mod team can also grow and people can get paid a little something for their efforts.

OCD is trying their best to be a band-aid for that missing feature, but the current method doesn't really scale with the amount of activity in the community. It's a lot better than nothing though.

Maybe when they have hivemind all up and running and working in sync with hived the peakd crew can come up with a solution. They almost have hivemind done, and then HF24, and the foundation layer will be mostly complete for Hive Block Chain.

I think the missing feature is having the communities be able to get a beneficiary cut with posts, so that when the community grows, the mod team can also grow and people can get paid a little something for their efforts.

I think this one is a good idea but one could just set the community account as a beneficiary to their posts. Perhaps just making a reminder on a community page through a frontend would work, like a button of confirmation or that the user opted not to have the community have a share on their post reward.

The user could always decline the option but this one just raises awareness that there is an option to support their chosen community to engage in.

I can imagine the struggle @midlet went through cleaning. I used to be active almost two years ago when this blockchain didn't need to exist yet. The art tag was just a means to get more visibility with content that isn't remotely related to art.

I like OnChainArt the way it is now but I still think there are a lot of features that need to be improved such as incentives to post at the right communities for content related rather than methods that come off as punishment. I'm currently just being semi-active on the chain as real life priorities occupy a lot of my time. So far Hive has turned out to be way better than the other blockchain overall.

I think it will take a little time for people to adjust. At least with communities you can only post in one at a time unless that community allows for cross-posting. When some front ends went to allowing 10 tags, that kind of opened the floodgates to tag abuse and a devil may care attitude.

Perhaps after hivemind is fully up and running the community owners can get a system worked out that if their community tag is in the first 5 it is rejected. I have seen many communities trying to make the first five tags subject tags, and then you can call on the tribes and curation trails with the last five.