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RE: Why wouldn't someone join Hive?

in OCD4 years ago

If your content was sitting on the HIVE blockchain adding value to the blockchain and the funds in your forked account were removed do you not think that is shafting someone? That is one example of the HIVE scam beginnings.

Have another drink of KoolAid my friend. It's so sweet and sticky.

If the V.22.2 Cabal sat around all day voting on each others' posts in a circle jerky fashion do you think that would draw users to the scam? When you sell your STEEM and buy HIVE where do you think that HIVE came from other than the trickle from folks like me? It comes from the token grinding V.22.2 Cabal who shattered the community and created HIVE by fearing the loss of their position on the pyramid.

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Ah, I see. The pyramid scheme idea is held by you.

If your content was sitting on the HIVE blockchain adding value to the blockchain and the funds in your forked account were removed do you not think that is shafting someone? That is one example of the HIVE scam beginnings.

You may disagree with the airdrop not going to everybody but this is not an example of a pyramid scheme. It is in the very nature of public blockchains that anyone can fork them. If you object to your content ending up on Steem forks, then you should never have posted it to Steem.

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If the V.22.2 Cabal sat around all day voting on each others' posts in a circle jerky fashion do you think that would draw users to the scam?

Ah, the circle jerk accusation again. You can go to Facebook and see how much you can make there.

When you sell your STEEM and buy HIVE where do you think that HIVE came from other than the trickle from folks like me? It comes from the token grinding V.22.2 Cabal who shattered the community and created HIVE by fearing the loss of their position on the pyramid.

I think you should be on mainstream social media platforms where the value flows are hidden from you. You will not need to feel bad about the top-heavy distributions existing on those platforms because you won't see them. @tarazkp, this is what I'm talking about when I say that the rewards are too conspicuous on the front ends.

I think you should be on mainstream social media platforms where the value flows are hidden from you.

Let me guess a Biden supporter? The less of two evils? Think waiting for @openorchard and shifting DPoS exposure to PoW in the meantime is the way to go, myself. Just speaking up for the up and coming suckers to HIVE not established users as yourself.

Let me guess a Biden supporter?

I'm not American. I don't really care about American politics. All I know is that Biden is a Democrat and that's it.

The less of two evils? Think waiting for @openorchard and shifting DPoS exposure to PoW in the meantime is the way to go, myself. Just speaking up for the up and coming suckers to HIVE not established users as yourself.

I've never belonged to any influential circle jerks on Hive or Steem. All the larger votes I've got have come from curation projects who vote on posts from a very large large number of users, @ocdb that had 3000 users on a quality-controlled whitelist when it acted as a distribution bot selling guaranteed-profit votes before EIP was introduced, a few whales who've launched initiatives and voted on basically anyone who has taken part.

I'm a compulsive content creator. I will always be creating content somewhere and I've been at it for almost 30 years or a couple years shy of the creation of the World Wide Web itself. I can honestly say that for an amateur like myself, Steem was and Hive is the best possible option on the entire Internet.

In fact, if someone opts for staying on a mainstream platform because they can't stand the thought other people earning more on Hive, then they will most likely get exactly as much as they deserve.

I can honestly say that for an amateur like myself, Steem was and Hive is the best possible option on the entire Internet.

So long as you participate with eyes wide open, then if it works for you fine. Having followed open source since before the World Wide Web itself, held crypto since 2011-ish and watched this shit show from just about its beginnings our opinions on where our time and resources would be best spent just differ is all. ✌️😎

By "this shit show" you're referring to Steem and later Hive or the whole crypto space?

The thing is that content creation as in taking part in conversations or writing blog posts is a compulsion for me. It's not fully a choice. I added photography to the mix about a year and a half ago and it's been fun. My activities take time. Other resources? Not so much. What I do here is completely effortless. There is no pain or discomfort of any kind involved. When I go out and shoot a dozen or so photos with my DSLR, edit them, make a post around them and publish it, it does not feel like work at all. Not in the slightest. Complete effortless flow from start to finish. I almost feel guilty about getting rewarded for that. And there's zero pressure to show results for it. Absolute freedom and zero accountability. The rewards still keep coming. WTF?!

Trying to monetize content creation on mainstream platforms is painful. As far as I know, Facebook is only good for exposure. YouTube only even allows monetization through ad revenue when a channel has a minimum of 4000 hours of video played and at least 1000 subscribers. Even then, the platform takes a cut. When you write a blog on Blogspot or Wordpress,com or host one yourself, you have to think about SEO in addition to your content the whole time. You have to be a slick professional and calculate every damn word to even begin to make anything. On Hive, I've only ever been myself the whole time. No SEO, no pandering to advertisers, no fear of shadowbanning or other forms of censorship if I say the wrong word. The only drawback from my perspective is that I can't talk about everything that interests me here because there simply aren't enough people here.

For the longest time, the only blockchain-based alternatives were Steem clones that had really low token values and Synereo that was discontinued a couple of months ago. Now there's LBRY and DTube's own chain. Those are the only two that seem worth trying to me. I've never made videos, though. Voice does not hold much appeal to me with KYC and all.

You mentioned the new chain set up by the OpenOrchard team. (I don't recall its name.) I'm open to blockchain-based alternatives and who knows some of them may turn out better. But so far none of the alternatives have felt compelling.

But I think we can agree on one thing. Blockchain-based social media is superior to centralized corporate social media.

You will not find me complaining about monetization of ones content. My involvement in the @devcoin project from its very early days should be a testament of that.

A pyramid scheme is when one needs new investors to keep payments coming to those on the top for the scheme to continue. That is exactly what was attempted here. The word attempted is used because it is my feeling that once the buy ins to HIVE from all those selling off their STEEM is finished that there will be little demand for HIVE and it will fall to dust. That is one category below shit coin. That is what happened to @devcoin with the same sell pressures. You can get the details of it starting at about 4:10 of the following video if you are really interested in my thoughts why HIVE is doomed to be the AOL of DPoS.

https://hive.blog/cryptotealeaves/@novacadian/cryptotealeaves-episode-2-this-is-not-financial-advice

A pyramid scheme is when one needs new investors to keep payments coming to those on the top for the scheme to continue. That is exactly what was attempted here. The word attempted is used because it is my feeling that once the buy ins to HIVE from all those selling off their STEEM is finished that there will be little demand for HIVE and it will fall to dust. That is one category below shit coin.

Look, most HIVE is not held or even bought by any active participants on this platform. It's not even powered up. Out of the entire virtual supply of about 379 HIVE, the vesting fund makes up only 137 million HIVE. There exists about 200 million liquid HIVE. About a half of that massive amount of liquid HIVE is on exchanges. The use case of those tokens is to serve as vehicles of speculative trading against Bitcoin for the purposes of growing one's Bitcoin stack. That is the highest value use case of HIVE or, in actual fact, of nearly all other altcoins as well.

Hive is a system that transfers value from altcoin speculators who are trying to grow their Bitcoin positions to recipients of HIVE inflation in one form or another, be it author rewards, curation rewards, witness rewards or whatever. Said altcoin speculators are the "victims" here, not the newbies or anyone posting to Hive and getting the rewards while growing their stake without necessarily or usually buying a single coin.

In fact, I'm beginning to think the real scammers are the people who are active on Hive while screeching it's a pyramid scheme thus scaring off newbies who might become their competitors in the game of amassing tokens that an entirely separate group of people, speculative traders who never power up their coins, gives value to. That's because too many of those people appear far too intelligent not to understand what I just wrote in this an many other comments.