But then, what's the probability that if they joined the Hive and made that same post, that they are going to get the same reaction. To be fair the probability is zero.
Yes, it is a different animal and not really a social media, that is only one aspect of it. People aren't used to the idea of working on the infrastructure level. The social part could be one platform, the gaming another - all tied below by the blockchain. It is kind of like websites leveraging the internet. Most people don't know anything about web protocols - they just use one the interfaces.
A lot of prospective users are unwilling to put in the work that is seemingly needed on Hive. To them, the work is placed higher than the possible reward. And that's because the rewards aren't guaranteed.
I think this is part of the problem with the idea of work. For example, I see work as having value without pay - for example, cutting my lawn. I like to have a neat garden. I write my posts regardless of the reward because, I like to present my thoughts well and I enjoy writing. Because of this, the work I see as valuable has over time, built up a following who also value it. It wasn't always this way and still, none of it is guaranteed. I have taken plenty of downvotes over time, far more than most.
Even for me that's been on the Hive for good period of time now, I still struggle with the negative emotions I feel when my seemingly valuable post is overlooked. I wonder how newbies will feel?
Ever published to Medium? I have. I am a relatively decent writer, the engagement there sucks ass.
But then again, I don't think onboarding is the major issue, sustainability, or rather making these new users stay is what should be discussed.
This is part of it, but this particular discussion is why they aren't here in the first place. Can't retain what we never had.
Well, I don't know how to say this, and I don't know how you joined Steemit and consequently Hive, but then for new users that we might want to onboard, we sell out the idea that they could get "rewarded" for their "WORK". So most of them will probably join because of that attracting factor, and not necessarily because they just want to share their work.
I mean if that[sharing their content] was the case, why would they choose Hive or Facebook, Twitter or Instagram were they have good following?
But then, if we tell them about Hive without the reward aspect, why would they want to join?
I'm a photographer. Prior to joining Hive, I shared my photos on Instagram and Facebook. And I'll be honest to say that if I wasn't hoping to get value for those content on Hive, I wouldn't necessarily be here. Seeing as it'd have been that I was even getting value on Instagram. Because prospective clients would see my jobs and book me for sessions.
On the Hive, I don't expect anyone to contact me for a job. I hope for it, but I don't expect it. So for me, the compensation is the fact that I could get upvoted for the content I share here.
However, I've been able to see beyond all that now, as I still continue to post regardless of the reward I get from posting. Also, I've been able to build some level of rapport with other users.
But how many newbies will get to that level of mind development? Especially when the concept that is sold to them is; blog and get paid.
Most came with a "your voice has value", work wasn't mentioned.
Yes, this is the value of having lots of people on a platform, it starts generating secondary economies. WE aren't there yet, this is an immature industry (social blockchain/crypto) in an immature industry (blockchain/crypto) - the introduction of value changes the dynamic heavily from a regular social media that is fully controlled centrally - including at the development level.
What about the support of those who share their content? Everyone wants value for their own content without thinking if they should also be adding value to others. What I like about Hive and having stake is that big or small, I can have some impact on the lives of other creators in a very real and direct way.
This is what has to be a global paradigm shift and it isn't easy being at the front, as there are no leaders to follow.
My point exactly.
Well, to be honest, I wish I could add value too, but right now, my influence on Hive doesn't worth anything. So I don't exactly seek out posts to upvote. However, for posts that catch my attention[like yours, and posts in my niché], I do leave valuable comments].
Right now, I'm mostly building rep and relationships on the Hive. If I get to the point where my influence has value, then I'll begin relating with posts more by upvoting.
How do you build rep and relationships without seeking for posts to upvote?
How do you think a person gets to a point that their influence has value on Hive?
Well, I think organic comments help. Reblogging helps too.
For this, I was talking about monetary value.
Comments help, participation helps - building a network is like building many friendships - there is a lot of giving.
Anyone has the option to buy in. It isn't always possible for everyone though, so it means doing the grind. For a little information though, having a large stake doesn't come with influence, there are plenty here who seem to have very little voice at all, no matter how much they have.
This is a very rare event though. If we are being honest.
That is some deep bullshit. Not the part about enjoying writing. The part about why you don't turn off rewards to stop draining the pool. Oh wait you didn't say that exactly did you.