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RE: Hive: A Complete Beginner's Guide (With Fun Doodles) Pt. 2

in Loving HIVE ❤3 years ago (edited)

Good guide.

Although, I rather disagree with the not bothering to upvote comments because of, a) the dust threshold and b) you or they aren't earning anything from it.

That is short termism. On other platforms do you refrain from liking a comment or post because there is no monetary value from it? No. You do so to show your appreciation. I know that myself/other 'old timers' and users in general often appreciate a comment upvote regardless of value and why? Well, simple. It shows you appreciated the comment.

When you are starting out you might want to think about building rapport, connections... Being remembered.

It will be a fair while before the average newb user's vote will be worth enough to broach the dust threshold unless at 100% As a result I often encourage new users to be free with their votes. Show people you like their stuff, don't worry about Voting power and the value of this that and everything. Try to enjoy the platform not merely for what you receive when you give but just enjoy the content and the connections to be made. When the aim is to connect and have a good time the end user experience becomes so much more.

Anyway, the upcoming hardfork (change to the rules which govern the blockchain) kicks in, the curve which penalises small votes will change (for the better, as in there won't be a curve) meaning there will be more value in comment votes, even small ones. Behaviour will probably change dramatically.

Just my two cents ;0)

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I edited this to say "the upcoming fork changes things"

That was me dude. He was upvoting my comments at 10% which wasn't a whole lot different than 100% at the time. I told him his engagement holds value and don't worry about upvoting our comments, use his RC to upvote original content instead until he has enough HP it doesn't get dusted.

I even said something like I speak on behalf of everyone and dammit you're busy in my balls!! <-- I shit you not, that was supposed to say busting my balls. Autocorrect's funny enough sometimes I don't change it, explain it instead.

So good of you to speak up and 'take the hit' for me here :)

And lol at that auto-correct :)

Of course. This, what we're doing, is what Decentralized s all about—group census. I say don't do it, he says do it (which he's outta his skull by the way), choice is yours TOS!

Hahah, oh man... not sure humanity was made to agree completely with one another, but I'm happy for any 'group census' on this guide.

I think for beginners just to make it slightly easier to learn, I'll tell them to treat their votes just like they would on any other social, but with the caveat that there are nuances. :)

Lol. Your busy in my balls!¡ That's going to be my new thing!!

I told him not to listen to you. I said, everyone has a voice except dandays, he's fucking nuts!!

Blockchain times :0D

Hey I resemble that remark!

LMAO LOL ROFL @meesterboom , @dandays , you two are comedy gold. 🤣

Mr Days is far funnier than I! :OD

Sigh... welp, I got it wrong, and as always, I appreciate being corrected and finding a better way. I'll edit the guide to reflect this change (after I give my eyes a break.)

For the record, I'm not a short-termism person by nature, I was simply doing my best to follow what experts had been telling me.

Thanks very much for taking the time to clarify all this @meesterboom :)

There is no wrong, as dannythedayboy stated. We all have a view, I could be in the minority in my thinking. Then again, I might not. I think the main thing especially when starting out is to not give a hoot Amit vote value until you can make a difference. Just have fun!

Well said, and I amended the guide to reflect that very concept, I definitely appreciate the clarification, and having fun has been my aim since day 1. And you've definitely helped that happen (in a number of ways.) Woooooooo, thanks again! :)

You are very welcome. Now, go get hiving! :OD

lol, I'll get to hiving for sure, but may need to hire an assistant to handle all these comment-replies :D

Don't worry, they'll dry right up on a non hive post ;0)

Haha, understood, and very possible...

Me rapping Eminem's Godzilla, the story of my homeless years, and my photoshopping a photo from day into night got less than 10% of this guide's engagement.

(grin)

All good though, I've really enjoyed our convo here, you and @dandays brought me a lot of smiles, chuckles, and even broadened my hive knowledge, approach, and etiquette.

"I rather disagree with the not bothering to upvote comments"

That's the comment worth upvoting ;-)

I agree!

I corrected this mistake in the guide thanks to @meesterboom 's insightful perspective. Hopefully I steer future newbies in the right direction on this.

And I've seen your name around, very honored you stopped by and commented, @gtg , thank you. :)

I stopped by to monitor this healthy reward.

My position hasn't changed. I've always suggested new authors who engage with me not to upvote my comments if their vote is lost. As I said to you, 'we appreciate it and it's thoughtful' but save your RC's for original content.

Eh, really though Rap God, congratulations on the rewards here dude. 👍🏿 I wasn't even aware data would cut you off forcing it to be done in two parts. This is very extensive, very nice work. It's refreshing to see it being rewarded properly.

lol, I love it... I did my best to include both perspectives, pointing out that for beginners it may be easier and 'feel better' to vote freely, but also pointing out that it may be suboptimal and cause lost votes. Hopefully seeing these two perspectives will allow people to choose the path that suits them best.

I hugely appreciate all the rewards, engagement, positivity, and love everyone's been showing me since I arrived on this platform. I only found out about the ~64,000 character limit when it slapped me in the face upon clicking 'publish', hahaha. So much to learn. Yesterday @cynshineonline posted a photo and it said "(Image not shown due to low ratings)", I used my considerable Google-Fu to discover what this error actually means on Hive, and not a shred of info turned up.

I wanted to include it in the guide so it doesn't happen to another beginner like it did to her, but... well... this noob hasn't figured this one out, yet. :)

Anyway, truly appreciate you bro. Thank you.

(And, omg now I'm Rap God, lol.)

Images were hidden due to low ratings.

Nah you're still TOS homie. 😉

64 fucking thousand??!! Thank you for telling me that number, you've really put your work into perspective, that's amazing!

My record is 39 hundred something, 3,943 or something like that.

Rollin in my 6-4! <-- Gangsta!!

LOL. Have you ever considered a career in stand-up? :)

Yep, 64 fucking thousand (approximately, plus 'formatting' characters cut into the limit.) Hah, between parts 1 & 2, the total character count was ~92,700 (pre-edits.)

I love short-form content, well-crafted one-liner tweets, and flash-fiction... so I'm all for a 3,900 piece too. In fact, that's what I wanted this to be.

Turns out explaining Hive in 3900 wasn't really doable, at least not comprehensively, lol.

"Rollin' in my six-fo'!" 😂

Wise words from the Wizard himself!! :0D