If you watch TV in America, you're probably starting to get a little concerned about the recent measles outbreaks. That's right, outbreaks with an 's', because we're now definitely talking about measles outbreaks in the plural.
If you're wondering why there are so many outbreaks of a disease that we thought was eliminated, keep reading.
Vaccines, while mostly safe and effective, are still a medical treatment at the end of the day, and every medical treatment carries risks. Just like some people are allergic to penicillin, some people are allergic to various components in vaccines. Just like some people have rare diseases, some people have strange reactions to vaccines that we don't really understand.
Rather than acknowledge these facts and educate the population about these rarities, pharmaceutical companies, in their official statements, largely ignore that they exist. Whenever pressed on the topic, the message from Big Pharma is overwhelmingly "Safe and effective."
They're not lying to you. That statement is true, it just isn't the whole truth, and because it isn't the whole truth, a number of cash grabbers, rabble rousers, and outright psychopaths have led a significant number of Americans to believe that all vaccines are dangerous.
The unfortunate truth is that both of these groups of people just want your money, and the less educated you are about vaccines, the more likely you are to give extra money to one side or the other. I suspect that the really unfortunate truth is that they're actually just the same group of people.
You see, these measles outbreaks are going to send people flying to their doctors and supplement stores, to buy more vaccines and colloidal silver. From what I've seen on the news about it so far, the number of sensible people between these two extremes is only going to grow smaller.
The news, even when it gives you all the information, prefers to put emphasis on the information that will make you panic.
On Today this morning, for example, they briefly mentioned that an outbreak is considered 3 or more related infections. Then, they spent quite a bit of time telling us how many states had outbreaks, but didn't give the numbers for each state. They did give the numbers for Texas, which has the highest numbers with over 100 infected people. They told us that most of them were infected children. They didn't tell us the number of deaths, so it's pretty safe to assume there haven't been any yet.
Then, in a 10 second monologue with no graphics at all, they gave the number that I had been waiting to hear: the number of cases in people who were vaccinated. They were still only talking about the numbers in Texas, so it's fairly safe to assume that was the only state that had infections in people who were vaccinated. The number was 5, out of a total 124 cases. That's about a 4% chance of getting infected if you're vaccinated and surrounded by a sea of measles.
That is extremely effective, but it's not exactly a guarantee. If vaccine advocates want any credibility, they need to address this fact.
The news then went in to a long segment with a number of charts and several people reinforcing that although the measles vaccine is safe and effective, everyone over the age of 25 should consider getting another shot anyway, and anyone over 65 definitely needed another shot. They did not bother to tell us the ages of any of the vaccinated people who had become infected. In fact, they didn't give us any information about those people at all. It seems to me the experience of those 5 vaccinated people is the real story, since that is the one that will be relevant to the vast majority of Americans, who are already vaccinated against measles.
I understand that a lot of their medical information is protected by law, and I'm sure that other people wondering why those 5 people aren't on the 'news' are being given that excuse. I wonder though... why would it be legal to use anonymous medical information to scare people, but not to give them relevant information?
If any one of those 5 people dies, I'm willing to bet that information, again without any relevant context, will be on the very next segment of the 'news'.
If you're panicking about the recent measles outbreaks, please stop. If you've been vaccinated, the chances of you getting measles are less than 4%, judging by existing data, even if you live in a town full of unvaccinated, infected people.
If you haven't been vaccinated, and there's no reason why you can't be, you should go get that shot.
I hear it's safe and effective.
We are one of the most highly jabbed country in the world and autism is 1 in 35 kids. There’s for sure correlation there as it’s the nasty adjuvants and other things they put in those fucking things that fucks people up.
As well - I would potentially agree with you if these damn things weren’t trivalent or quadrivalent now - meaning combining three different things into one. Isolate measles into its own and give that, don’t lump it in with mumps and rubella which also means you have to triple the adjuvant to produce an immune response.
With modern medical technology we don’t have to worry about things like measles causing issues. We need to get back to treating sicknesses and letting the body recover and getting natural immunity, which is far more effective than a synthetic one that’s got lots of negative consequences that arise from it.
Not sure if you’ll bring up polio but that one was a complete farce as well. They introduced the polio shots after it was trending quite precipitously downward, but even that’s sketchy. Poliomyelitis was reported on extremely well by a few people I’ve listened to. The nerve destruction was caused by the heavy-metal coated pesticides they were spraying on the foods. The children would ingest it and since they were young and their spines were still developing, the metals leaked through their intestines and damaged the spinal nerves because they are a lot closer as a young child compared to adults. I forget which heavy metal it was but I’ll find the episode, it was really incredible information.
I want to believe these things work, however knowing how much these companies abhor people and prefer money over people - I have zero trust in anything they say or do.
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Here is the polio episode. Give it a listen it was incredible!
I can't watch without paying, which is a HUGE red flag for me. At just a glance on his website while trying to watch, I see him claiming that polio just 'appeared' in the 1800's, which is provably false. The idea that it is man made is also pretty far fetched.
I'll watch it, if you can find a way to send me a bootleg, but there is no way I'm giving that guy my money.
The last pandemic was insanity.
How do we even know if a person wearing scrubs or a white lab coat cares about your personal best interests, nowadays, or are they just following marching orders?
Even if I could identify the good ones, where do I find them?
Crazy. Evil. Greedy.
That is the label deserved by anyone suggesting hard drugs and needles are the solution for the everyone, when it is only statistically effective on the majority.
Gambling.
I am happier wearing the contagious closet conspiracy theorist label.
Any reliable natural remedy chemical with almost zero harm, should be included in the modern treatment conversation, even if it has little effectiveness.
Everything you do is a gamble, including natural remedies. There are adverse reaction to those, just as there are to vaccines, that the people selling them prefer you didn't hear about. That's why I trust the odds, not people.
You are a propagandist.
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I know you are, but what am I?
I see!
Well if you are so concerned about scammers and conmen in medicine then we are on the same page! I am saying the whole notion of viruses is a scam nobody has bothered to check for validity.
Have you ever looked into Louis Pasteur or the history of virology?
Yes I have. Have you ever seen immune response play out in a Petri dish?
Well great, seems like you have zero issues with what you found in either Pasteur or the history of virology, which already shows we are of a different mindset.
How can you not take issue with it, especially if you call yourself a scientist?
I have not worked with petri dishes since my school days, though I still feel free to question - without being an "expert" - whether what you describe as an immune response might be a foregone conclusion on your and your colleagues' part. Which is the question on the table here - the inquiry into the merit of virology.
I know it's not chic to say so but specialization CAN make people blind and overly vested in the ghost they are chasing. Especially if the allegation that the entire field of study in question is up against IS that it is based on an unproven assumption everybody simply took as the truth without verifying it.
Of course it is TOTALLY possible I have no idea what I am talking about, and that you are totally correct! I can always be wrong and I don't mind finding that out! Precisely because I have no stake in the outcome, I just want to know and ask questions until I get satisfactory answers.
If you haven't blocked me by then I would love to hear your takes on the virology criticisms when that dub finally releases.
Thanks for your time.
I only block spammers, and I'm pretty comfortable saying you don't fall into that category.
My biggest take on virology criticism is much like my take on flat earthers... a lot of their major claim are just wrong. These groups hammer relentlessly at a few counter-intuitive truths, that are backed up by CENTURIES of individual experiments all over the globe, and claim erroneously that the evidence to refute them doesn't exist.
While I agree wholeheartedly that specialists will often get tunnel vision, and can often become religious in their beliefs, these people tend to be zealots more than scientists. Scientists want to know things, zealots want to be known.
The mechanisms by which bacteria, viruses, and other more novel pathogens operate are fairly well known at this point. It is also fairly well known that they alone are not responsible for all the various forms of dis-ease that people experience. Your response to these invaders has much more to do with whether or not you get sick than the pathogens themselves, and immune responses are just as individual as personalities.
Knowing the truth can be HARD, even if you do your own research and experiments. Humans are emotional creatures, and that interferes. We are also prone to extrapolating patterns that do not necessarily exist. The whole point of experimental science is to provide a body of evidence that is not influenced by our own irrationality.
it seems we definitely share the ideal of the scientific method! it just seems we came to vastly different conclusions on the specifics.
either because we looked at different pieces of evidence, or we presupposed and assumed too much of what we set out to prove. as i said i feel comfortable saying i don't know, and i am always keen to change my mind when somebody can make a good case rather than using logical fallacies.
although it took months and even years of study i did end up finding the flaws in both popular cosmologies to my satisfaction, the one you are defending and the one you are criticizing. both cosmologies are wrong, and any scientist worth his salt would have gotten to the same conclusion had he only put in the work.
maybe you were tricked by one of the many false honeypot idiots out there giving giving "the flat earthers" a bad name on purpose. many if not most who call themselves flat earthers have made terrible arguments and false statements - and many of them on purpose. in order to dissuade and confuse people like you.
the concept of controlled opposition is as valid as it always has been and as long as people fall for it humanity will be divided.
so either you know something i don't - which is ENTIRELY possible (!!!!) or you have tried to appeal to a reality frame example you have obviously NOT studied enough yourself in order to convince someone who HAS studied it at length. to then somehow take that inference and make your case about the topic at hand here - which is quite weak were that to be the case. come to think of it i should check your text for AI now.
Alright you passed, great! Ah enough of the cosmology, i am just saying none of us know what's going on here and some arguments suffice to some, and to other people those same arguments do not.
That all said.... please do know that I appreciate your comment and to have access to someone who not only shares the scientific method ideal but who seems to mean it, coming from the more "mainstream" point of view.
if i feel the "pathogenic viruses exist" camp does not respond to the criticisms coming from that dub i am working on, i may be able to use your best criticisms of it to see the logical flaw in my own thinking and therefore I will have greatly benefitted from your expertise and knowledge, allowing me to change my mind and to not claim any longer that pathogenic viruses do not exist.
I simply like to find the catch in things.
sorry dude, I will stop spamming you now,
blessings
You still watch TV?
Okay that explains everything 😭
You're still butthurt? Can't say I'm surprised. 😘