Sorry Marc; We sre NOT lied to...

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Ethics is Important, yes, in STEM

This whole thing was triggered by a discussion on Ethics in science and technology, more specifically at the cutting edge of science, be it programming or writing proposals on a blockchain, or designing Chat Bots or using them or using other similar Large Language Models. So I have been reading a 'post' by Marc Andreessen The Techno-Optimist Manifesto.

For those of you who do not know Marc Andreessen. He is a VC guy who is the co-founder of Andreessen Horowitz, which is a VC firm with $35B AUM (asset under management). Marc is also the co-founder of Netscape, Mosaic and Opsware. He is basically a tech geek and a VC guy who gets a lot of attention in the technology space. So he write these long 'manifesto's often which triggers a lot of people both in a good ways and bad.

What triggered me on this is the way he started his rhetoric just like the deranged and fired fox news guy Tucker Carlson. It read almost like a right-wing monologue, as opposed to a technology product. He starts by saying that we are fed this 'lies' that technology is eating out jobs, destroying the environment, etc.......Sorry Marc. I must say NO. Nobody is feeding us this.

Then obviously he provides the solution! Technology is the ultimate answer to every human problem. Marc urges society to remove all barriers to technology adoption and development and sail into the glorious techno future! Oh I wish! Mind you I am a scientist. I have a PhD in geology and I use my scientific knowledge everyday in finding hydrocarbon. However, if you ask me, please go find and develop oil and gas fields around the world, by any means necessary without any regulatory body, oh, just be responsible. I will laugh at you! Not only that is impractical, but also it is unsafe. You don't want any energy company to go explore for oil and gas without any regulatory oversight, and expect them to be responsible, do you? You also do not want any banks and mutual funds to play with customer deposits on snake oil futures! LOL. So why is it you are considering letting the Large Language Models to go amok on Chat GPT without any ethical control?

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Kern River Oil Field, Bakersfield, California, Yes, I could have chosen a Texas Oil field, but I didn't ;)

No Marc, people are not being mean to technology. We as a society recognize the advent of technology and its benefits, but we also see how its potential misuse will be detrimental to the society. There is clear and present danger if that manifesto is taken as a gospel (it is not) we could be in trouble.

Let me explain, we see that a lot of people are big fan of AI, especially use of AI in large language models, including right here in hive. Now I have seen a button in peakD which can enable me to write a post based on a single prompt. I even have multiple option. I can post that as a content every day, and have have it auto-voted for rewards. Is it content? Is it worth the reward? Is it ethically correct? I’m not an individual who is intuitively opposed to optimism around technology, and I will not trade space with my grand parents, but I do see the danger in uncontrolled use of ChatGPT in a write-for-reward platform for hive. Honestly, I do not think there is enough eyes out there to protect the platform from abuse from AI, so why are we making it easy for user to abuse it?

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At least now it is mostly ready to catch. There will be some time yet before it gets good enough to have character and not be spotted but it will be an ongoing and uphill battle

Yes. We have a tools to catch. But boomy how many people are even looking? I say about 10? 20?

Clearly we can't scale if 500 people starts doing it regularly.

Defo. There just aren't enough people willing to put their grass above the parapet

Really not understanding why we would make it easy access for ChatGPT to be used on a front end. Sure ChatCPT could be used to help in researching a project but once you take out the human element to make it a unique article with your own insights it seems pretty not worth it in terms of rewards. Search engines have also got smart enough to detect ChatGPT and pretty much ban those from ever seeing the light of day.

All of this honestly feels like a repeat of the early 2000's when article marketing was a big thing and then got slapped my google because of the piss poor quality of the articles. ChatGPT just regurgitates this. I would also agree that there's simply not enough people or time to go through every article and check it. However there are some new AI tools that do a decent job at detecting if a bot wrote it. I'd much rather see that on a front end and clear so users had a better idea about time and effort that goes into a post.

That is the premise I tried to explain here. There is nothing wrong with chatgpt. It's a tool and an useful tool. But we must regulate and moderate it's usage

I would also agree that there's simply not enough people or time to go through every article and check it.

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That's why too much of everything is bad. Technology is good and very helpful to all of us but when we depend on it too much, it becomes a problem
A lot of people even misuse that opportunity of technology and it affects them at the end of the day.
Also, some people can no longer do things by themselves because they have depended too much on technology

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Wow, a rather abrupt ending without your typical sign-off image. I wonder if this was just a simple oversight.

either way, I agree with you that common-sense regulation is important for any industry because if left unchecked the power will corrupt the people controlling the technology to take advantage of the system. Like you mentioned, we see this time and time again.

While I don't see technology as the enemy, I DO think we will eventually need some sort of UBI to provide for people who are losing their livelihoods to technology. At a certain point, the power of technology will become so concentrated that it will be able to pick the winners and losers at will. This is the danger of LLM that I am worried about.

I understand the issues it is currently posing to Hive blockchain. I am not nuanced enough in these issues to know what is original from what is LLM content. Part of me doesn't even care as long as the content is accurate and helpful. I think the danger of AI-created content is when the links are not accurate and incorrect information gets posted with non-existent attributes. This is a huge danger and one of the things I was hoping Web3 would help to address.

Technology is good, it allows us to advance but the abuse of that is what will harm us later😣😫