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RE: Subconscious Social Engineering - A Concerning Interpretation of Current Events on Hive - HDF 124 Operator Ethics Questioned

in StemSocial3 years ago (edited)

Thanks for drawing attention to this - there is a full on cancel culture being developed on Hive, and this is far from an uncensored platform.

We thought Steemit was bad in that regard, but truth be told I posted dozens of posts and comments on Steemit that I would now not get away with on Hive.

Right now, I can post what I want on Gab, and 99% of what I want on my own website, but there are entire subjects I'm not discussing on Hive at all because I will get reamed.

The coronahoax is not going to be one of them, if I ever get downvoted for calling out that bullshit, I will stop behaving like an investor and start posting the deep state stuff.

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I enjoy reading the "conspiracy theories" but I have always seen it as critical thinking and encourage all kinds of peaceful civil discourse.

How much more peaceful could we be thab posting our most extreme concerns on the internet where everyone has a fair chance to respond?

But you're right, the public forum, where man kind shares his Reflections of the beaurocrat realities we manifest, has been corrupted.

The blank parchment and quill all men have the equal opportunity to, but if slander is all they are composing who is even interested in that?

Sadly there is large scale capitalism revolving around the culture of intimidation and its become profitable to destroy your peers with the press you get for standing with the status quo narrative.

The open forum, the blank parchment, the tablature we desire to share with our peers has become a breeding ground for toxic visionaries that have mistaken a difference of opinion with a linear trajectory mankind was never going to follow in the first place.

Perhaps one day, we will find a way to disagree in a public forum once again, but slander is definitely tainting the public forum to the point most of us censor our opinions just to test the waters about these things, almost out of fear of being accused for having concerns that are not approved by the status quo.

Mankind is always seeking to dominate, and I would prefer to see sovereign people dominate on Hive, not protectionists and follower culture.

"follower culture is the most toxic aspect of the internet" - a person we will leave out of this

@montycashmusic @frot voting for the return proposal is something we can do immediately to raise the standard for funding to be approved. Proposals with less support than the return proposal do not get funded.

Excuse my ignorance, how exactly does one vote for the return proposal? My 1000 odd HP will be but a drop but lots of drops make an ocean.

Ok, I found the proposal DHF 124, (btw, your title of this post says 'HDF'). It relates specifically to HiveWatchers.

Look at me, I'm learning new things.

5tupid question time - How exactly is user 'logic' involved with HiveWatchers?

The Hive Decentralized Fund, Decentralized Hive Fund, same diff lol

Do you think that taking it out on other people who have proposals up by inflating the bar is the moral thing to do? Do those people not deserve any funding just because some random person on the internet called you a name?

Do you think that taking it out on other people who have proposals up by inflating the bar is the moral thing to do?

  • No
  • That is not the purpose of the return proposal, i was going to elaborate, but thats not what this post is about

Do those people not deserve any funding just because some random person on the internet called you a name?

  • Accusations of hate crimes are not the same as an ad-hominem subjecture
  • If they want my vote, making blind accusations of me is not a good way to achieve that

While we are on the off topic quesitons...

Do you think someone who misrepresents logical thinking should be involved with community funded development pertaining to spam moderation?

When you're dealing with the DHF it's a matter of thinking of all proposals and their value. If you dislike one, upvote others to balance the distribution. Moving the bar around won't stop Hivewatchers but it'll hurt other proposals. The solution isn't to mess with proposals but to provide feedback that's actually timely.

Until you posted this post I've never spoken to anyone except MK here. Everyone knows they can message me and say whatever is on their mind and I'll keep it confidential and not retaliate. Most people do that. Now because no one said anything, with a few exceptions, and some random account came into the fold which is far beyond Hivewatchers scope, we're dealing with a mess where I can't even begin to figure out who is offended by what and who is posting what.

I personally don't give two shits if you're posting anti-Covid-lockdown posts or similar. People expressing their opinions on the internet isn't going to harm anything. You are not accused of hate crimes. Giving your opinion or being called a name isn't a hate crime. And opinions to the contrary aren't hate crimes. The only one who think that are those bots on Twitter that swarm users. That's just pure BS. This is why I created Dline (https://dline.xyz) so people from Hive could post whatever ideas they had without anyone mining their private info to set the Twitter mobs on them.

When i noticed @mmmmkkkk311 stopped posting it motivated me 50/50 with the what i took as some serious accusations to make this post. I really dislike watching people be cancelled and @mmmmkkkk311 is the one who originally explained a similar experience with logic on a forum I follow.

It seems like he is oppressed because he has Steem power, i know lots of people with steem power but as long as they are not manipulating the DPoS model and consensus model on hive, i dont care whats happening on steem.

You really should've talked to me first on whatever chat. He's not oppressed, he's a normal stakeholder.

I have a pre-alpha release of an onchain solution to this spam moderation issue.

https://ecency.com/hive-177956/@phusionphil/subconscious-social-engineering-downvote-pledge