Hive is imba

in #hive4 years ago

I wanted to curate and blog long enough to draw a fairly accurate conclusion. I have now, and there's one simple, fundamental problem with Hive right now.

Well, of course, inequality on Hive is through the roof, but I'm not talking about that.

I'm talking about the dearth of content and content creators. Curating on Hive is like deja-vu, Groundhog Day, you know what I mean? Browsing through the new feed, filtering for shitposts, basically looking through every new post made on Hive, you'll come across the same authors over and over again. All attempts at finding new content creators end up in failure.

Which is not to say there are no new bloggers - there absolutely are, but it's far too rare for what is supposed to be a growing platform.

There are definitely a small handful of engaging content creators, but these people are easily found by autovote bots and curation projects, often taking home a majority of the reward pool.

There's nothing left here for curators who wish to look for new creators anymore.

So I guess I'll just keep voting for the same people over, and over, and over again, because there's no choice. At some point, I'll get tired of it all, and leave. Again.

Of course, this is a personal issue because my whole interest in curation lies in discovering undiscovered content and new authors.

So, why is this? Some will say "bear market", others will blame the change to 50%/50% split. Others still will suggest a lot of casual bloggers are still on Steem, while only crypto nerds know Hive even exists, so there seems to be a such an imbalance here. Then there's the elephant in the room, this is simply a bad platform with abysmal UX. It's probably a combination of all of the above.

But all I know is, something needs to be done about this. If not, might as well rebrand Hive to Circlejerk. I'll wait for the JERK token to pump.

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I have no problem finding newcomers to hive, and I don't use any tags to find them. The reason I seek them out is to delegate Low HP, not to curate. What's the difference between delegating and curating you may ask ? Well when you delegate to newcomers you give them an opportunity to have a good start on the platform with no reward. Curation is plain and simple, you vote and you expect to get a reward.

curation lies in discovering undiscovered content and new authors.

Really, it sounds like newcomers are unique to curators alone, thankfully this is not the case as there are communities out there that take them under their wing where they get the proper exposure they deserve.

Feel free to leave any time, I'm sure you will be missed .... by ....

Love this, this is awesome, nice!

Do people go "eeek" when they get a vote from you? :P (just noticed here on peakd it says the value of your vote on his comment was pretty big, although I'm not sure what these numbers mean on this frontend)

I couldn't think of any other channel to thank you, so here I am: Thanks a lot for the upvotes.

Very nice to see another person that is willing to help the low power accounts, 25 HP can and does make a difference.

This is pretty cool of you! I was surprised to get my first upvote today to the same amount I paid to get my account created so I'm wondering why there aren't more people joining. I'm already having some fun just reading and haven't even begun generating content (which is the main reason I came here). Anyway, I'm just gonna continue digging through this rabbit hole.

Thats why i took a break, I'm more then sick seeing the same authors being placed on the top.
And the most irritating part is that they are actually not as good as it may seem. Writing about same shit over and over again...
Fuck it, ill just stay silente for a while

I'm not even talking about the trending page... That was always like that. But more of an overall view.

The ecosystem is shrinking. More emphasis on the tech and crypto aspect of the blockchain rather than on the social aspect. Will things change? I don't know. There is little or no conscious effort to make that work.

Blogging, in general, isn't necessary a trending thing. Most popular social platforms are video base well aspect the like of Reddit.

Maybe we should start thinking of other ways to utilise this blockchain or hope for a bull run soon

That is very true. I think a sustainable niche for blogging can be done, but given the economics of Hive, I'm not sure even this is sustainable long term. Bull runs are short and temporary for altcoins, can't really rely on those to sustain a long term project.

I still find a lot of interesting content here, some gems even, but also a lot of repetitive shitposts. I think when Hive gets more successful it will attract more bloggers, good and bad ones, like it was the case 2017/18 with Steem.

There's definitely interesting content here, but my point was it is all from the same handful of people. The whole thing about exciting new authors joining and waiting to be curated, like in 2017/18 Steem is just not there...

I don't know I have found a few new users, I think that one of the things people that have been around for awhile have simply forgotten is that with out HP, a new user is very limited in what they can do or produce. I have seen a few post made by new users in the introduction feed, I have found a few new users via reblogs from a few various communities. I have found a new user on discord. The two recent new users had pretty much 0 HP. I don't know if the two I loaned/delegated 25 HP to will use it will post will take off and grow. One looks like he will, one may not even know she received a delegation and may have already given up.

I don't have a lot of HP myself, I have had delegations to my account in the past and currently. I have delegated to accounts in the past and currently also. I have my Alternative account that was my just in-case account, that I use to delegate to new users at 25 HP a pop. Currently I could support about 10 accounts with the HP I have there.

A lot of curation folks are in your boat, it is hard to find new people, yet when a new account is found by a curator how many look to see if the account even has 25 HP to post and comment and vote with?

If we as a community want new people, new growth, when we invite them in we must be able to help them get their feet wet and give them a few months to acclimate to a new and very different environment than they may be used to. I try to help, we need more people to help.

Yep, it takes old people to help new onboard and have good experiences.

i don't really have that issue yet, given my hp power. I try to support as many authors as i can while maintaining my voting power between 89-90%. Also, there are content creators that don't post only a certain thing let's say only fitness but a variety which i love!

I get what you said though cause i have search a lot as well, especially in the past and it was difficult to find new people

Given Hive is basically just a new home for the disenchanted of Steemit I'm not surprised in the slightest. Many of those who made the change have brought the same baggage and methods with them that they practised on Steemit. The promise of a "Brave new world" and "A new way of doing things" is actually pretty hysterical when you think about it.
Ask yourself these two questions:

    "Why was Hive created?"
    "Why is everyone changing over?

The fact of the matter is Hive was not created because people (Dev's) were fed up with all the bots, sock puppets, parasites and utter garbage on Steemit it was set up simply because Justin Sun bought Steemit. Everyone (well some were) was perfectly happy with Steemit until Justin came along nobody thought it would be a good idea to wipe the slate clean and start afresh until the rise of Justin.

It would be nice if a lot of the unfair practices on Steemit were not replicated on Hive but that's just wishful thinking. I've not been on Hive that long and like most and possibly including yourself was lured to start using the account already created for us by promises of a "Brave new world" even though I knew that was not the reason it was created.

Let's just hope it doesn't end up like Animal Farm?


"If you don't have enough power or Crypto to upvote me; reshare me instead. Reshares are worth their weight in gold!"

Don't forget, you can upvote peoples comments too!

To be fair, I don't think anyone thought it would be any different. The only difference is Steemit Inc is gone, which does lower the supply significantly, and means we have a new set of developers but that's about it. The underlying platform is still as broken as before, and so far I don't see anyone looking to change that.

All that said, Hive now is worse for curation than Steem before Justin Sun, and that in turn is far worse than it was in 2018. Not to mention, the golden age of curation - mid-2017.

Funny you should say that. Only the other day I commented on how I have more HB than SP and yet my rewards on Steemit are greater than on Hive.


"If you don't have enough power or Crypto to upvote me; reshare me instead. Reshares are worth their weight in gold!"

Don't forget, you can upvote peoples comments too!

I think this varies from account to account, depending on what your follower base on each platform is like. I tend to get more rewards on Hive than Steem while crossposting the same posts, likely because some people that read and vote for my posts have moved to Hive.

Because no one is doing anything on Steem and everyone is powered down, so there's less competition for rewards.

In that case, I'm staying on there then. I'll clean up in a month! 🤣


"If you don't have enough power or Crypto to upvote me; reshare me instead. Reshares are worth their weight in gold!"

Don't forget, you can upvote peoples comments too!

yes, same problem on the witness side

I sorta thought this would happen - content that is content please, not content about the platform - I know what I tend to see more of - though, I will admit, I'm starting to see more actual content - sadly, not all of it is as compelling as I'd like.