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RE: Clarification and Questions Answered about My Proposal in Response to a Post by Belemo

in #hive4 years ago

@justineh "people can choose to support or not" doesnt come off right to me from you given what I have seen of you out in about on discord and such; it feels disappointing somehow. A lot of people look to you as a representative of Hive and of them as community members. Personally, Id would have guessed if you received backlash that you would work with the community, but would not take on the "people can choose to support or not" mentality as such in the circumstances.

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@rubencress you can read my comments in this thread for more of what I see in the circumstances.

I'm open to discussion if that's what you want. Could you try to approach your issues more objectively and less subjective? It's normal to share what is important to you, I respect that, but it helps to know that not everyone shares the same opinion. It would make it easier to get to the core of your issues.

But based upon what I just read from your comments;

  • You're comparing completely different proposals
  • You're sharing multiple concerns around the payment
  • You're doubting/questioning/need assurance that she would continue her work on the project as described in the proposal
  • You believe it is mostly to cover expenses for past work
  • You're sharing that it is unfair to ask to get paid for past work

What you're sharing is simply a dead-end, leaving very little room for discussion or a solution as one issue is in direct conflict with another. I'm not sure if you're aware of that, or if this is purposely intended.

You judge her for asking partial payment for her past work, right? At the same time, you want assurance that she continues her "past work" work. How would you value the continuation of that work, if you already shared your opinion that her past work is basically worth nothing? If you want to leave "past work" out of the equation, then judge the proposal with "past work" out of the equation.

For promised tasks described in the proposal, even if the outcome is not as we desired, $50HBD per hour I consider being undervalued, as it is still quite a risk since it is not a direct pay in FIAT. I'm leaving this "pay for past work" totally out when I'm measuring the amount of requested payment and judge her proposal based on her skills and previous achievements.

Which makes me think of a possible meet-in-the-middle solution; I'm not here to fill in the blanks for @Justineh, nor do I wish to talk on her behalf, but let's say, if you have a promise that says that X% of requested pay-out will remain in the platform, as well as X% of the pay-out will be extracted and exchanged for FIAT to cover expenses, would you be more sensible to support this proposal?

Also, I want to point out that the "past work" you're referring to is something that I would consider to be a USP in this case, and an additional incentive to pledge my vote.

you make it obv that there is no productive convo to be had with you without extremely unnecessary effort, so I will have to decline your offer

No hard feelings. Enjoy your evening.