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RE: Clarification and Questions Answered about My Proposal in Response to a Post by Belemo

in #hive4 years ago (edited)

You already know that your proposal will pass but I wouldn't call that consensus, at least not a community consensus but a consensus between the big stakeholders.

I don't have any doubt that you did a good job but the amount that you're asking for is excessive for many of us. A lot of people won't complaint about it because they're afraid of express an opinion against those who are way more powerful than them.

If you would simply reformulate your proposal I grant you that not only you would have the support of those whales but the gratitude of all the community.

Think it carefully because by perseverating on this you could harm more than you helped to the proyect. Having in count to all instead of a few, you could have your real consensus and the next time that you make a proposal probably (after looking to your works merits) they would approve without problems even a bigger salary for you.

So imho, you're commiting a big mistake here.

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DPoS consensus, thus how the platform you are on is designed. I would say that no not every proposal will have full community consensus, but hey neither does every post. If every post and therefore every payout had to be approved by the large majority of the community, I assume authors rewards would look quite different. But alas, that’s how the system is designed.

As far as revising, I would love to hear ideas on how to do such. I break down the hourly wage in another comment as well as describe how “showing work” is difficult in this regard but am working on ways to improve it.

I think the idea that I’m doing harm is a bit odd, but would most definitely love to hear tips on how to improve.

DPoS consensus

Yes I know how works this blockchain, that doesn't mean is the ideal though. The ideal would be obtain as much consensus is possible, is not too much to ask to calm down the waters instead of having a lot of people pissed off with this.

As far as revising, I would love to hear ideas on how to do such.

Easy peasy ask your voters to retire the votes and add a new one, this solution is obvious I don't know how you aren't aware of this.

I think the idea that I’m doing harm is a bit odd, but would most definitely love to hear tips on how to improve.

It isn't odd, divide a community is harm it. Here is an essay that says "you will win but you won't convince" instead of trying to win you should be trying to convince us all (the more people the better you don't need the 100% logically).

Again, I would support your proposal and I bet that all who are complaining about it as well. I admire the tenacity, that speaks well of you but don't confuse it with stubborness.

Easy peasy ask your voters to retire the votes and add a new one, this solution is obvious I don't know how you aren't aware of this.

And what would this new one involve that would apparently “unite” the community rather than “divide” it?

What’s the solution there that you feel is so obvious and want to support so fully?

I didn't mention it? sorry thought it was also obvious . The salary and the targets especified, maybe the duration of the contract. That's what most of people were claiming. Neoxian and other users pointed out very clearly.

I won't tell you how much is the reasonable amount nor the targets of the proposal, I think that you could talk with those who have more weight than me for that specific terms. 500/day sbd seems too much, you are good negotiating, that's part of your work also, do it and convince Justine, don't try to win.

You're clever enough to figure out what you should do, I bet that you know it already but since you know you can win this proposal probably you won't take my advice. Fair enough I'm nobody to tell you what you have to do, of course.

Neoxian asked for more information in that regard and I gave it. Are you saying the proposal should be updated with that information as well or that it should be revised?

As that’s where my confusion is coming from, you are suggesting I clarify things I already have. So I am asking if you are suggesting something else, so I can attempt to do what I can to solve any issue had.

So here is where I broke down this aspects for him.

https://hive.blog/hive/@justineh/q9xd8a

So were you asking for the same? Asking for me to add that to the proposal itself? Or saying a complete revision needs to be done?

If I have to clarify you this then I want part of your salary for couching.

Don’t need “couching”

Just trying to get you to say clearly what you are asking instead of whatever vague monologue you keep replying with. Seems I already answered then.

Have a great day.