Vlog 251: Vice industry + Forking the blockchain vs SMT's.

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Vice industry wanted to utilize an SMT on the STEEM blockchain for their project here

Later they changed their mind and decided to fork the blockchain instead and create their own blockchain but they would compensate steempower holders with an airdrop of VIT tokens.

This airdrop has been canceled last week. here

“Today we announce that we will no longer be supporting any airdrop to Steem holders. VIT will instead reward only direct participants of the VIT crowdsale."

I guess first they didn't want to wait for SMT's and then later regretted the airdrop thing as well.

Which is ok, I wish them all the best with their project anyway.

I do think they have a lot of work in store for themselves now. They will have to run their own blockchain, get servers, witnesses and all that.

But they are a big industry so I'm sure they can manage.

For smaller industries or communities, an SMT would be so much easier to implement.

You will get all the benefits this blockchain has to offer without investing in all that backend stuff.

O and if you don' t know yet, we have our own little adult project being developed on the blockchain.

It's called dporn.

I talk about it more in my vlog (from @ 2:05)



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What a shame they decided to fork. I was really looking forward to having a porn SMT as it's such a huge market. I don't get it why they want to fork and do all the extra work that goes with it.

hey @exyle great work, looking forward to Dporn hahaha!

Hey, bit offtopic but, I've put your avatar on a pizza:

Here is your custom EOS.Pizza @exyle - come get your slice.

Also one for you runicar

Nice to hear that you are OK with nsfw content ! Upvoted and Resteemed to my followers

and now @blockbrothers is my witness

We did do something for Vice - we all contributed to the steem blockchain in one way or another (ok, maybe we didn't do much).
Thanks for mentioning DPorn! It is definitely rough, but it's coming along. Feel free to drop into our discord if you have any questions.
Disclaimer: I am a moderator in DPorn's discord (I'll leave a link if @exyle is ok with that)

Sure you can leave a link no problem!

Very kind of you, sir. Thank you
Here is a link to DPorn's discord: https://discord.gg/MDapZW3
All are welcome, but it is largely NSFW. The investment and other help channels are SFW.
The only thing we get kind of strict about is harassing the models :)
See you there!

Broken promises are never good for biz and you are very right about them making a ton of work for themselves. Think I'm stickin to dporn for the win!

@exlye thanks for the mention at the end of your video. We are excited to be the only porn related company on the SteemIt blockchain currently and plan on growing with the platform and with all the steemains here. We are a community born website and idea and we'll always remain this way. It would have been great to have some competition in this space from VIT ,but clearly they saw a different direction.I see you stopped into the discord looking forward to having a chat!

edit: Sorry, for so many typo's( fixed!) not much sleep lately! ;-)

I am certain this cancelation was a big mistake for them and their company.

Thank god we have Dporn, i must say progress is really nice and we have many models who post daily to it. Still some bugs but they are being fixed very quickly. I think this is revolution of porn industry and i am glad to be so early part of it. Make sure to hop in our discord channel we have awesome community :)

there is an nsfw platform called dporn that is being built on the steem ecosystem http://dporn.co/

That's why I don't do short-term trading. It's playing with your emotions and there's a lot of guilt-trip involved. For some though, I know it's very exciting and enjoyable. I think April will be more bullish since I checked the trends last year. But who knows? I agree with you when you said you're waiting for stronger signals.

I don't just know what is wrong with VICE. Say one thing today and come up with something else the next day. How am I even gonna take them serious? (I don't care if they're a big industry).

Tommorow they gon come out and say the project has been suspended totally.

I wish them good luck

This is exactly how I feel, it can't be trusted.

I totally agree, I was initially really optimistic about their project. I was a bit turned off by their CEO after seeing his interview on supomans channel, the guy just doesn't strike me as a smart businessman or a leader.

They say one thing to get the support of the Steemit community and then change course and don't use SMT and cancel the airdrop. I was whitelisted but the whitelist sale was such a shitshow I decided not to invest

One thing that makes me happy when I get to read these kind of news is that in one way or the other our steem blockhanin is being used which is very good for the platform.
The more projects we have built on the top of the steem blockchain the better it is.
Excited about your little project :p

"One thing that makes me happy when I get to read these kind of news is that in one way or the other our steem blockhanin is being used which is very good for the platform."

You couldn't be more wrong.

They are literally NOT USING the Steem blockchain at all.

Rise isn't Lisk.

You are very wrong actually.
The fact that they forked the steem blockchain over SMTS says a lot.
Exyle spelled it out for you. Rather than use an SMT (which is a non existence atm) they chose to go through all what Exyle described...

  • Team, Servers, Witnesses, Developers, etc.. etc..
    Sure they are a Big Company, and to be honest, I wondered why they didn't do what they did back when they announced they were interested in SMTs.

There was clearly an issue. Either between the two entities (Steemit Inc + Vice) or they could not reach agreement under representation. Or, they did not see SMTs as a solution.
Either because of the delay in their existence or in the way that they would be implemented.

There is much more to this.. and there is much more to SMTs. I've had this hunch for a while and have come across certain things that hint towards some underlying issue(s). It just doesn't make sense that they would take so long. I don't think that the team is incompetent. I DO think that they know how badly steem needs their existence. It only leaves one wondering why... why are they so delayed.

Communities... at least... fucken hell steemit Inc.

What do you expect from a company that ran off its creator to enable rape of the system?
Rational behavior?
Competency?
Nah, we are talking about stinc, after all.
They can even make porn suck.

You are spot on @suf1an. The more projects we have built on the top of the steem blockchain the better it is.

@exyle.... i hope dporn comes soon!

I definitely agree my friend. The more awesome project steem blockchain will have, the more valuable steem could become.

Sad that they have cancelled air drop as it was chance for getting free money.

Mark @exyle if there is one thing I know about Business its that when you change your mind about your direction you tend to turn people OFF to you altogether. I think Vice is interesting and I was looking forward to an AirDrop but now since that is canceled to be brutally honest, I really don't care about them anymore. I feel in a way a little betrayed but stay POSITIVE and Life moves Forward.................

I feel the same way, I feel like initially they treid to get the support of the Steemit community and then decided they could care less about us. The whitelist sale was handled pretty poorly and was pretty chaotic and though I signed up for it I decided not to invest.

Indeed, I've lost what little interest I had in the project by proxy.

I'm still interested what they will do with the blockchain now that they forked it. I'm not investing atm.

VICE token sale currently live on Ethereum blockchain, 26927.55 ETH raised so far!...Sad to hear that they cancelled airdrop for steem holders...

That seems like far too much.

vice could be huge

I've often wondered whether porn would do well on a blockchain.

The lure of VHS, DVD, Laserdisc, then the internet for porn was anonymity. Prior to these technological wonders, the option was theaters or peep show.

I'll also have to do some "research" to see what user information is captured when you visit. Because, as we all know, with the blockchain, our grandchildren will be able to look at the history and tell their friends that "My grandpa use to watch this video back in the 'teens"

:-)

yup - will need a new account to do all my dporn blockchain research, hahaha

Initially I was kind of excited about the Vice ICO, I signed up for the whitelist sale, however I really didn't care for how they managed their Telegram group, as it got closer to the ICO got less and less interested in investing. The presale or whitelist sale was kind of unorganized, their addresses weren't working, things really weren't clear. At that point I decided not to invest, partially because I didn't have that much faith in the project and partially because I figured hey I'll be getting airdropped coins anyway. In the end decided not to invest and am happy with my decision.

I have no invested either I'm still interested in what they will do with this blockchain (forked).

VICE thing could have been very hug of the STEEM blockchain. Its okay At least they considered STEEM blockchain as a suitable candidate. Its just a matter of time when some big company like VICE utilize SMT

Hmmm. Well I won't go into what I feel about Vice but I like your explanation as to what makes the SMTs more attractive to most companies.

I've stopped buying BTC/Steem again in the hope that it will go back down. I'm hopeless can't stick to anyone strategy. I was buying a bit each day and going for averages as you suggested @exyle but then it plummeted again and I now I'm waiting for it to come back down. 😂

It takes some time to get used to sticking to a strategy. You will get used to it. Just take it slow while you learn, don't go to mental please :)

Good point @exyle. "It takes some time to get used to sticking to a strategy." I forgot that this is a learning process.

Now I feel much better about it. I haven't even checked Gdax today so took off any pressure. I've been enjoying myself doing other stuff which is great, as I'd fallen into a bit of a Steemit trough again, for a few days again. 😊

haha :)

Good morning man, glad to hear you are super excited for some adult content :D :D

A good listen today, I enjoyed the 'little bit different'.

I wasn't aware that Vice changed their minds about the airdrop and have chosen to fork. As you suggest, it will be a good to compare how Vice get on with the additional work with another project that go straight in with the more straight-forward SMT approach.

Others projects may look at these early test cases to make a decision. I hope it goes smoothly for Vice, and if not, they can always apply some lubrication I guess! :D

Have a good day!

Eh, Dpron!? Who would have thought that it will arrive to steemit...

But some whales are saying SMT projects like Appics are putting their steem investments in Risk as they are announcing and funding the project when SMT itself isn't a real product yet...I read it just yesterday somewhere in comments, unlike what you always say SMT will only increase value of steem. I am so much confused right now.

As long as SMT's are not here we can't be sure if they will work indeed. That is a risk I guess.

I believe they will work and will come out this year and I'm sure Appics believes this as well.

As a project, you can, of course, decide to wait for SMT's to be released before you develop anything for them but then you will be behind when they do come out.

SMT's will increase the value of STEEM because SMT's require bandwidth on the STEEM blockchain. You need Steempower to 'pay' for this bandwidth.

dont do too much research mate

sometimes you have to!

Whatever their reason for not continuing with the steem blockchain.They will still manage to get by even though they are going to have an uphill task of creating their own blockchain.

Dporn sounds awesome. Get paid to watch something I already watch. It's like getting paid to drink beer or something

@exyle,
DPorn :O What a great idea! Yeah it's a good news as well lol :D
Anyway I think if Vice decided to go with SMT they had a huge chance of success! Anyway let's wish them!

Cheers~

@exyle tnx for the support #DPORNSTRONG
PORNDSTARS ROCK!
ALL WELCOMED 18+OVER!
#PORND#NSFW #https://discord.gg/38vxTXB

nice topic

Definitely, it was

"Dporn"? well they took their time didn't they? The adult industry is usually on the cutting edge of this stuff.

hopefully Steem can hurry and get SMT done

You have posted a very good topic .... Your post really liked me .... and I think your post writing experience is very good .... thank you

is blockchain is impossible to hack or if we knew the next crypto code, we have a chance to change the code?

6 MINS FOR THE NEXT 60 YEARS OF YOUR LIFE - A RANT

Sir always you choose a different and unique topic for discussion herewith us @exyle today you wrote a great story on blockchain and SMTs, I personally think that all are on may be better way instead of cancelation of Airdrop for steem holders that's news not sound good for most of us.

This great story, I appreciate your writing....
upvote and resteemit

Vice industry really very important project of changed steem blockchain.you are a success man of steemit platform in the world.so,your every good thought helped me my future success of my steemit.you are a high quality person.Them using the SMT would have been nice, but since they decided to compensate with VIT tokens i belive its fair enough then.thanks to sharing for your good post.very well done sir @exyle

Very excited for this new adult site, at least now we will see a clean interface here.

Thanks for share this

Good working, I am amazed at the people who have been successful in steemit

Them using the SMT would have been nice, but since they decided to compensate with VIT tokens i belive its fair enough then

It will be an amateur porn site for adults???

I guess NSFW is going to become it's own category rather than just a tag.

Whoa you have so much steem power. How do you even gain SP? I am still kind of new to the whole platform

I think it good to manage this..thanks sir

I hope this is not a silly question. Is dporn a real thing? Sounds odd.

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unequalled writing, very informative post about smt.

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