There is happening quite a lot in the moment on our Blockchain and it seems that the community is divided into several groups trying to achieve somehow the same goal but with different approaches.
- We have groups that are using the Steem blockchain to announce a new Blockchain and probably to get investment. Fair thing and we wish them good luck. Getting investments for new Blockchains nowadays is not an easy job and I hope they have enough fundings for marketing.
- We have groups that are trying to force the witnesses from Steemit Inc. out, as the force is claiming that the Steem used for voting was never planned for voting witnesses.
- We have groups that are trying in the background to keep this chain whole and gather the interests from all parties to find a working ground together.
1. The TripleA Witness
TripleA is a Movie and TV show review site, based on Steem and Steem-Engine tokens trying to form an alternative platform to make it possible to reward content creators and curators on both sides. During the project, we also realized that a general reward, based on inflation without having the utility for investors is difficult to maintain when the user number is not on a similar level like services without any blockchain technology.
To be able to get more users on our platform we also have seen that we need several parts at the same time to create momentum.
- Big enough marketing budget to onboard users.
- Easier onboarding for users.
- Services and digital products to create enough sink for the token economy.
With the news coming out that Tron may buy themselves into Steemit Inc. we were positive for having more marketing on the Steem Blockchain then before, which would be also positive for the TripleA project.
2. The past
There are a ton of posts about what happened from different views. One thing that we have seen in common is the following part.
- The community does not want the witnesses from Steemit Inc. being kept on the top 20.
- Steemit Inc. would be willing to remove their witnesses and votes when they can be sure that no funds may be frozen ever again.
There is in the moment a lot of talk going on behind between stakeholders that are NOT interested in a chain split because it would eventually weaken the whole community for all sides.
As far as we can see, words can be broken and code can be overridden with power. We will have to choose the difficult way to make a ground where we can at least try to trust each other.
3. The statement
@justinsunsteemit mentioned in a meeting with witnesses, Steemfoundation and the KR community that they would be willing to remove votes and witnesses when they can be sure that no fund may be frozen. A statement from the witnesses would be needed.
To start with it, we would like to inform the following to ensure the first step for a trust-based relationship.
The team behind TripleA and the witness server will NEVER involve nor confirm any action or code that could freeze or limit the stake of anybody on the Steem blockchain.
To emphasize our attention, we have launched our server based on version 0.22.5, which should be a message for Steemit Inc. itself.
4. Thoughts
We think that Steem is a great place. It does have a very diverse community and maybe also some geeky users but it is still a place where people can come together, get information and live together as a big community. We think that we are now on the edge of a lot of changes and that we may not return to the status quo as before. For that too much has happened already. But sometimes change may be needed to move forward.
We will act, as everybody else here on the chain, to do what we think is right. And that would be to try to establish governance on this chain for all participants.
Smart move. Looks like he is buying older accounts now to make it seem that his witnesses are not sock puppets. You are not fooling anyone here...
I bet my ass that we will see 10 more random older accounts pop up in the top 20 in a matter of days...
That dev365 vote is like a stigma if you get it for a prolonged period of time.
This is exactly what's going to happen. He's going to bribe other witnesses to run his version, which will result in him saying: "Well, those are community witnesses". Community witnesses my ass.
I don't have anything against triple.aaa and their project, but this will be hilarious to watch when actual problems arise on Steem and nobody of the "new community witnesses", will know what to do.
This is pretty much the equivalent of hiring a new software developer and making him Lead Developer or Senior Developer instantly.
Please don't get me wrong, but you are literally saying the Korean community is not a "community." @proxy.token discusses who to vote with the KR members, and it's their decision to support @triple.aaa. There are other 40 more people who upvoted this witness other than proxy.token and justin, and they are not also in the community?? I'm personally getting tired to see the mindset from yourside that thinks ONLY the people who support your voice is a community...?
Also, the lead dev behind the @triple.aaa is a LONG-TIME STEEM DEV in Korean community (even far longer than us - Steemhunt). Please don't think that only you guys are the "qualified" Steem dev or witness runner...
(Self-voted due to the long images above)
How can I vote for something that the man who is ruining and causing tension on a platform that I adore, also voted for? With all due respect it is not about one side pretending another doesn't exist, that is called a strawman argument. It is not "the other side" vilifying the Korean community. Justin Sun's actions are making any vote of his null-and-void. He is persona non grata in these parts. Its not Steemaphopia as you are suggesting. This comment neglects to mention any of nuances of the argument instead the comment is hypocritical and trying to label everyone from "the other side" (your word's) as villains. You are guilty of the very same thing you are complaining about in this comment, in fact, many people such as myself have been very humble throughout this whole experience. Let's not fall into that abyss, the witnesses that are being mentioned as socks are highly suspect and receiving votes from the ninja block and accounts of two different exchanges, the blockchain is very transparent and the proof is there if you want to see, this is not just people attacking all that is Korean.
No, my Comrade, only their community is The Community!
Have you learned any history? :D
There seems to be a bit of vote shaming going on, in my opinion. It seems a bit like the narrative of the 2016 election in the US, a choice between the lesser of two evils. Guess that's what forks are for.
Novacadian shrugs
@null|Mr. Sun
No, we say the intention is part of a crime. You are guilty.
This looks like a J.S. Server with a new account attached to it, they probably have admins. o.Ó
Fuck off! Tell me your twitter account NOW !!!
You are fooling everybody for years, let the Sun have some fun as well :D
Will you publicly discuss upcoming hardfork changes before you run the code ?
Have you made private contact with Justin Sun, or the Steemit Inc team ?
In other circumstances I would be glad to support this witness, I like what you've done with the AAA tribe, but a brand new witness shooting to tenth place overnight with the support of the NinjaMine and Poloniex ? Red flag.
What a pointless spam_?!
Such a statement seems a little unnecessary and possibly naive. On a decentralised blockchain where such actions would require a super majority of top witnesses (17 out of 20), there is close to zero chance anyone's stake would be maliciously frozen. If any top witnesses planned such actions they would not remain top witnesses for very long.
If the blockchain comes under threat, it is the duty of the witnesses to protect the blockchain. Under these circumstances, a temporary restriction to particular actions might be deemed necessary until the threat is removed.
This part is what we see different, as some other top 20 witnesses at that time did also.
What was your price tag? This post contradicts itself at least 5 times, but the major flaw is behind the bullet points.
That indicated a bailout, but it ain't gonna happen.
You rely on the word of someone that forced his own friend and Co. Founder out of TRON in 2019 (by centralizing it) and made every credible developer of STEEMit Inc. leave the company. What the hell are you even talking about when you say or write 'STEEMit Inc.'. There ain't none left besides the TRON F.
AND YOU THINK, he will stick to his word(bait) after you gave him the power to do else wise? Why would he do that and what's the reason he's not doing it on the TRON chain? Last time I checkt, TRON was worth 0,009$? Where are the sinks in the nearly ~700 developed DAPPs for TRON?
Empty words and deceptions, maybe stay with the facts. Only the past can tell the truth and his past is damn dark and dirty.
And last but not least, if he'd bought his STEEM on the exchanges, just like anyone else... how big would your profit have already been compared to now? Think about that for a second.
There's this famous phrase:
@exyle heres how you can make top ten witnesses. Ask the Koreans how you can kiss ass like them. Maybe they give you pointers.
To the rest of you... Can we PLEASE Hard Fork already and GTFO.
Having spammers and vote abusers like Virus in top 10 witness spot voted in by ninjamine stake is an abomination.
It's an attack on sanity.
Don't you get that Justin will use these turncoats to push the idea that the community supports him. That there are no sock puppets any more.
He will continue to vote in his supporters and control the chain.
This is a puppet.. you waste your words ;))
But good energy! <3
Glad to see a new witness project representing another community. I think it is crucial that we have a good diversity of witnesses both in order for more Steemians to feel represented, but also for improved security when the top witnesses don't hold the same views and thus cannot easily collude.
I have two questions before deciding to vote:
@fredrikaa thanks for stopping by.
I think the following link introducing the TripleA team would help.
https://steemit.com/jjm/@jayplayco/team-jjm-introduction-of-team-members
Cool, a new witness.
Just wondering why the account is only voting itself and not other developer witnesses?
I could use a witness vote. After getting bumped from 56 to 94 to 86 in all of this crazyness.
You can click this link to go vote: https://klye.steem.design/
Bahahahaha. Fucking lmao.
Thank you for the laugh this morning!
Bernie is the best, but I'd hate to get on his bad side.
Been on his bad side once.. It was not fun.
really?
I am 100% for the Korean community having witnesses, but not like this. How this witness was voted in makes it only marginally better than Justin's sockpuppets. The Korean community is playing with fire in terms of their future token value in attempting to appease Justin, and his eventual dismantling of the STEEM chain. If you all think downvotes are bad, I hope you will enjoy your subpenny STEEM.
Lol... what a heap of BS... let me fix this for you, it should read:
You're not fooling anyone with a new witness account and pretending it's a legitimately voted member of our distributed community. This account has very few votes compared to lower level witnesses that have put in years of work supporting this chain.
From https://steemian.info/witnesses
"Witnesses from Steemit" <-- You mean sock puppets sybil attacking the chain? And this isn't some empty claim. It's well documented.
You sure about that? Imagine a chain split where all the apps, all the users, and all the community move to the new chain. All that would be left on Steem would be Justin and his sock-puppets. Seems in that situation, we win, he loses.
As for your statement, is there no situation where you might take direction action to protect the integrity of the chain? None at all? So if the chain was attacked and value destroyed, you'd be okay with that happening on your watch as an elected witness?
For other things, they are just different opinion from your side (and we must value for all different opinion, right?)
--> This account is new, but the Steemians to run this witness node are the long time devs and business people who created many things. Also, the @proxy.token is not just one account, but for being backed by more than hundreds of accounts from KR community. I don't think it has any rule for like "only such days of run witness" can be the main witness... am I wrong??
So it is a matter of opinion whether exchanges should vote on DPoS? Because your Sock 'Witness' is also powered by Poloniex votes.
You can turn it as you want, you've lost your face. This matrix of lies you've presented here, just to hide the fact that you've been bribed. Everyone can see what's going on. I hope it was at least worth your body weight in gold, otherwise you're a complete idiot.
Do those long time devs and business people realize they are threatening the chain by not speaking out against an individual who is okay with centralizing the chain? Do they realize how that puts everything built here (including their businesses) at risk?
v0.22.5 was implemented as part of a sybil attack and complete take over of the Steem blockchain using lies and deception with centralized exchanges (who have since reversed their stance). By supporting that, it signals to voters what you think is acceptable as a witness for the Steem blockchain (complete centralization and take over). That, I can not support.
@tipu curate 2
Upvoted 👌 (Mana: 10/20 - need recharge?)
I approved @triple.aaa as witness.
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Great initiative. Voted!
Voted, but check your node. You missed your first block.
So why are you voting for him? What a fucking idiotic thing to do.
"I voted you into the top 20 before you even know how to turn your witness node on"
Just as stupid as Justin Sun @clayop
I helped them to setup witness node, and my vote is when they are waiting for new blocks after missing a block. So technically, I voted for them as I realized the node is working.
After my resignation there's no Korean witnesses. @triple.aaa is the first new one and I want to fully support this move regardless of Justin's vote.
Where I am from, supporting (or not supporting) someone solely based on the race is referred to as racism.
Appreciate the response.
Don't get me wrong. Despite of cultural differences, I don't vote for witnesses who have poor performances. Triple A team represents Korean community, can suggest their opinions to STEEM community, and I expect Triple A can increase diversity in the witness group.
As I told, Justin' vote is indifferent from mine. I voted before he did, and I don't want change my decision just because other's vote. If I think it degrades the decentralization, I can revoke my vote, but this moment isn't the case.
I'm surprised to see you take this position, Clayop. I thought blockchain technology wasn't supposed to be about race or nationality but about voluntary contributions from diverse people all over the world?
True. So what I want is to represent Korea community's (and their stakes) opinions. If @triple.aaa shows negative performances, or damages decentralization, I can reconsider my vote.
Dude none cares about the vote of Justin.. he can buy STEEM and vote as much as he wants! The Ninja Stake should not be a voting power and at the very first of all things... Exchanges should not vote. Poloniex is still in the Justin Sun Mix, you approve that? Think that is a good thing?
He was willing to buy STEEM on the 'Black Market' by overtaking the leftovers of STEEMit inc., then all the dev. of STEEMit saw them selves forced to quit their jobs and after all that damage he used 3 exchanges to overthrow governance. Even Financial Times and Bloomberg called em out on that and yet you side with him. How do you explain that to urself?
You might love this movie: The Devils Advocate https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118971/
More the reason why people shouldn't be voting on a noob.
Yes, and they are learning fast since a person behind @triple.aaa is a good dev. It was just a small miss but I will help them to make things better :)
^^
Cool! Go for it!
I think @tirple.aaa is really awesome project.
💰💰💰💰.
You agree to an entity, that will shut down your newly created witness anyway. Because with 3days in and out, the chain will be raped by another Justin every week. Kinda until STEEM is worth 0.00000000001Cent and then all witnesses will shutdown anyway. Actually that is what Justin Sun said in one of his first Tweets. We will go to TRON together , because STEEM will be worthless by then.
Can‘t be, no one is that stupid, wolf is right. This is another Puppet. And finally a place to drop my downvotes, that is what I see.
@berniesanders . I hope you don't mind me tagging you, but triple.aaa is a new tron witness. Give em hell.
On it!
hahahahaha
Translation: You’re a Justin Sun sock puppet.
TripleA Witness가 상위 증인이 된 것을 축하 합니다.
앞으로 증인으로서 스팀과 유저들을 위한 많은 일을 해 주시리라 믿습니다.
한편 스팀짱에서도 zzan.witnesses로 증인 대열에 합류하고자 준비를 하고 있습니다. 상호 존중과 더불어 증인 업무에서 긴밀한 협력이 이루어져 스팀 발전에 이바지 할수있기를 기대 합니다.
다시한번 축하드리며 그간의 노고에 감사드립니다.
Man, you guys fucking suck.
I hope Steem community would evolve with a variety of culture and ideas including US Europe SEA and all
@triple.aaa can you confirm that you will not allow something like this to ever happen again?
I also question why you would run 22.5 when 22.1 is the same with the exception that it wasn't part of a hostile takeover. If you are for the community and not supportive of a tron takeover, why not select a community version?
Where's Bernie with his shit pics when you need him? 🤓
I think this is bernie.
You gave me a great chuckle. Thank you! 😂