Firstly I would like to take a minute to thank all of my followers, I truly appreciate it more than you know and I can't believe I have passed 1000 followers!
So thank you very much, this only happened a few days after my first birthday on steemit post and I have been meaning to write up a post thanking everyone for their amazing support over the past year - it just means so much to me.
But before I could get around to the post life got carried away, my kids got sick (it's winter) and over two weeks had passed since my last active post.
For those of you who know me, you will know I don't tend to get into flagging wars or flag people in general - in fact most times my account has flagged someone has been because I vote follow other trusted curators, and those posts are usually being flagged for abuse or spam.
I have tried to stay away from the negativity and have in the past remained silent, when people have been rude or abusive to me or my partner @ausbitbank - this is not why I am here and I try to stay away from things of this nature.
I can be pretty chilled on here and it generally takes a fair bit to get me upset or enraged, this is the internet and one comes to expect you'll find the odd douchebag in your travels - there's no need to make this your only focus or to dwell on things too much, let alone take up space on the blockchain with spam and hatred.
I move on with little thought of small people and their small minds, however when out of nowhere I get a comment on my last post saying -
Now to clarify for people noganoo is a steemian who is well known for spamming the network, doxing users, spreading hate speech, lies and personal attacks on the platform.
At the same time he is a massive emotional manipulator, getting sympathy votes from new users who don't know the full story and his general toxic nature.
As far as I'm aware I have never even spoken to this person before, he has had several run ins with my partner @ausbitbank who tried and failed on multiple attempts to bring him back from the brink of steemicide and help him out generally.
This is not the first time noganoo has reached out to me, but this is the first threat he has ever made me and as I said I don't know the guy and haven't interacted with him at all - so why the sudden and extreme hate?
Within moments he appeared again with this little gem -
Now still at this stage like usual I was preparing to stay quiet, why give small people the attention they so clearly desire - he means so little in my life why waste time addressing his pathetic nature?
I shook my head I felt sorry for this tiny person, surly living a life so void of purpose, honesty or virtue is punishment enough for this pathetic excuse for a human.
But then being the good christian he claims to be, then decided to steal a picture of my partner and our two beautiful children and write a post stating that my partner was a satanist and that is the reason why my amazing children were born "sickly" - referring to my two pure, innocent, incomparably brilliant non verbal autistic children, they have autism because I guess we're satanists.
How can he call himself a christian, when he outright claims this bs about two disabled children on the other side of the world?
So by this stage @ausbitbank and I are understandably pissed off, so @ausbitbank wrote to him saying "How fucking dare you" and then this happened -
Then the fucking pathetic excuse for a human, let alone christian said "I hope your kids die" - what the actual fuck is wrong with some people, who could ever say such disturbing and horrible things.
This happened hours ago and I am still shaking with rage, I have never wanted to cause so much physical pain to a person in all my life - he is lucky we are not on the same continent.
I have tried so hard to maintain a calm and respectful presence on steemit, I have put in some insane hours here (@ausbitbank even moreso) and I feel this whole situation puts all of that at risk.
So please understand why it is both @ausbitbank and I are losing our shit right now, we are not trying to put all we have built here into jeopardy over nothing - but we will not sit by and do nothing when people are saying shit about our kids.
@ausbitbank has flagged a large number of noganoo's posts and comments, (including the two posts he wrote specifically about @ausbitbank after the original one about our children) and now so have I - for the first time since joining I have personally flagged someone (multiple times).
Unfortunately dealing with this pathetic person has drilled @ausbitbank's voting power, so because of one dodgy user hundreds are going to miss out on his crucial support on their posts.
Noganoo has hundreds if not thousands of sock puppet accounts, that is where is threats of mass flagging my posts is coming from - he is a constant and blatant abuser of the platform.
He has mass spammed the network on multiple occasions in the past and just today, reconfirmed his intentions to do this again after both @pfunk and @liberosist asked him to refrain from spamming.
Is this the kind of person we want on steemit? Someone who wishes the death of two disabled children because he thinks he deserves votes and support in spite of constantly abusing the platform?
As parents we can't sit by and do nothing while hatred and lies are being spread about our family, my kids have and will always come first - I never imagined by writing my story online I have someone tell me they wish for their death.
I can't describe what I'm feeling but it's kindred to intense hate, loathing, repulsed, disgusted, enraged fury, a clear and present desire to cause physical pain which I haven't really experienced before in my life.
I have had to fight to keep my kids alive, they have both had additional medical issues which threatened their lives and to have someone so carelessly wish their existence away is beyond unacceptable.
For the past few hours @ausbitbank has not only created an account called @nogbot, but also tracking down all of the farmed accounts he has control over (1223 accounts so far).
He has also sent it 500sp to give it some power (this is also to restore his own voting power, so he can get back to supporting the users who deserve it - rather than nogs spam), it is now going to be dedicated to flagging everything the toxic user noganoo ever posts.
Whilst I don't encourage other users to go and flag him personally, he has stated anyone who does flag him will suffer the wrath of his bot army - it is not worth users (especially newer users) to take this on, it's just not worth the risk to your accounts.
This post isn't about us wanting others to take action, it is merely an explanation for what is happening now and in the future.
I never want to speak to this garbage person, he is the epitome of a pathetic internet troll - he has no life, no real life friends and is an all around sad and sorry excuse for a person.
I once felt pity for him and his small insignificant existence, but now the pity is gone - I believe in karma and if this is all he can summon to put out in the world, just imagine what he gets back.
He doesn't deserve the attention from this post that is why I haven't linked his name or account, I'm sure in a few days he'll come back saying he's sorry again - but this time he went too far.
I will never forgive his words and his cruel unchristian nature, he actions and words here are unforgivable - he deserves everything he gets because of it.
I am sorry to have such a negative post after so long away, as I mentioned the kids have been sick and now all this crap has happened - it's just not what I wanted to do or have on my account, but I hope you can all understand where we are coming from.
This is the last type of content I wanted on my page, I wanted this to be a professional space for my story and writing in general - not consumed with the petty drama we see so often on social media sites.
But as a writer and a believer in steemit, I felt the need to address this issue personally - I will never stay silent when people go after my kids, I have always and will always stand up for them.
@ausbitbank and I have been the only voice for our children for the past eight years, we speak for them because they can't yet and to have someone attack them for their disability and blame it on us - just couldn't go without response.
Both of our children have low functioning nonverbal autism, and it was not given to them because @ausbitbank and I are satanists (we're not religious at all) - this just shows the height of his ignorance on multiple fronts.
Also we do not hate Jewish people, it's insulting to have slander floating around so just to put an end to that - stop pigeonholing us with your ignorance.
On a final note I would also like to address the comment he made about us being "muslim sympathisers", um yeah we support the rights of muslims and have muslims we consider close friends - stop being a xenophobic douchebag you're not helping yourself.
Ok so that's it I'm done, I hope you can all appreciate where I am coming from and forgive the language - I'm Australian and I'm pissed ( plus I already toned it down lol).
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I really dislike bullies. @noganoo is a bully and a coward. This sorry excuse for a person behaves like this because he is apparently a sociopath and also because he clearly believes there are no consequences (that matter to him) for his actions. I can literally feel the pain he has caused you for attacking your family so brutally. It is little comfort but do bear in mind that such a coward would never utter such things to your face. He feels safe, cloaked in anonymity, deep in his putrid, little hole.
I would gladly join a concerted effort to rid Steemit of his foul stench. His behaviour towards you and your family should be an affront to every Steemian. Let's take as much action as the system permits to shun this despicable, tedious, waste of time.
Thank you so much for your support, we appreciate it so much - I just don't want people to fall for his lies again, he's out there playing the victim when he bought it all down on himself.
Why do you flag the opposition in a debate? Bill Nye & Ken Ham are opposites but they did not flag each other. Trump & Hillary Clinton did not flag themselves during the debate. A lot of people flag even as there can be more debate.
Yeah I don't think you read the post, this is not a debate - he said he wished my kids were dead, he deserves no voice on this platform.
@krystle, I know that. I read that. I am writing. What I write and wrote does not mean it is an automatic debate. What I wrote is not automatically a bad thing. Maybe it is a bad thing. Maybe I am a bad person. But I was exercising my freedom of religion. You said you are tolerant to people of different religions and faiths and cults and beliefs and everything.
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In my religion, I believe in talking. It is that simple. I just wanted to compare our lives to the lives of some famous or infamous people. I think it is better to have perspective. I believe in analogies. I believe in the freedom of speech. There is a debate about whether free speech includes hate speech. If hate speech is not included, then who determines what is hate and what is not hate?
You are not making any sense here ^^^^^^^^^ It's like a bad Dr. Suess book
lmao a bad Dr. Suess book
Are you the brother of CNN Jim Acosta of Lady Liberty?
My name is Stephen Miller.
please have you ever been wronged? and if yes how did you know that you were wrong?. I don't know of a religion that allows wrongdoing simply because we are not supposed to judge. There is no religion that does not talk about pointing out once mistakes and helping them become better people. but logic also tells us that until one accepts his or her wrong, there is no way to correct such a person.
I think you do not understand the context.
I understand the context. I am reading the context. It could not be worse than the bad things Hillary did. I made comparisons to help add perspective through contrast and comparison. I might mute people. I know people do bad things. We steal and we murder. Also, people traffick too.
No mate you don't this has nothing to do with debates, what Hillary did or didn't do - your comment is irrelevant and a bit annoying given the circumstances.
@krystle, I disagree. I have an opinion. You have an opinion. My opinion is that you are annoying. Your opinion is that I am annoying. What I said is connected. But you do not care about the connection. You are not listening. You do not care. You are being mean to me. But you say you are right and I am wrong. So, I am the bad man here because you said so. Forget about DRUDGE. Forget about CERNOVICH. You do not care about analogy.
Listen mate I think there is a language barrier here and the last thing you say is your autistic, so maybe that isn't helping things here.
But first and foremost I have not attacked you, I said your comment it annoying not you - there is a big difference, for example you said you thought I was annoying now that is a personal attack.
Perhaps in the future use your words to further explain your view rather than just straight out attack people, you have insulted me on my own thread - you have assumed everything you have said, I have reread your messages several times they don't make sense in regards to this situation.
Then you try and tell my partner I don't like critical thinking, you have so many comments spread out over my post it's hard to keep track.
Please stop, or here's another option try explaining your point of view so others can understand it - this is not an attack but multiple people have said they think you're confused.
Yet I'm a horrible person because I think irrelevant comments are annoying, make your comments relevant - don't lash out and claim to have been attacked.
As with the mute thing below, I thought I was answering a simple question - as I responded to a comment asking if you can unmute, that is all I was referring to and you blast me for that too.
Seriously I am not in the mood for this shit after what has already been happening, if you have no value to add from here on out please go away.
If you want to try and reread my words see that I didn't attack you and explain your position without just listing names and make a full comprehensible point then maybe we can move past this.
If not enjoy your life on steemit.
There is a big difference in flagging opposition and having idiots spam attack accounts.
great!!!
I am appalled by this behavior but not surprised, while Steemit can bring out some amazing elements of humanity it also attracts the other extremes, greed(demonstrated by the begging and the occasional IP theft), and hate. It is a sad reality of social media that is even more pronounced and perpetuated here by the financial rewards steemit offers.
STEEM VS. FACEBOOK
Hello Steemians! Could steem crush down Facebook? If only more people would know more about it. That they could earn while they post, while they share their experiences and their ideas on something.
Oh, people! Hear me now and here it is. Let's spread the Good News of STEEM!
Let's unite then...Upvote and resteem.Follow and let's follow one another!
DON'T SPREAD THE HATE PLEASE...!
Some friendly advice: If you would like to achieve success on Steemit you should drop the follow me, follow you or upvote me/upvote you thing. You need to state WHY you think it's a good post and if the person reading the comment likes what you have to say they might follow you. Also a large number of followers don't determine your success on Steemit if they don't actually vote for your stuff and engage in conversation. Some users are also offended by these kind of comments and may flag you, lowering your reputation.
Even if it's personal drama or whatever it is, that's just between the parties involved. When you cross a line wishing death upon other people's children, that won't be an acceptable response no matter how you stack it. I hope you guys can resolve your issues without it getting nasty or for you having to form a malicious army to go against the community when it doesn't side with your problems.
I'm sure none of us know the full story, and ultimately it's none of our business. But when we see people being attacked with verbiage on this level it becomes a community issue. I know you want to bring together others that have some sort of hatred for certain people in this community. I know you're looking for more support, but this objective will get us no where in the end. It will cause a lot of confusion, pain, anger and many other useless emotions for no purpose at all but your own satisfaction that you're winning your fight. Even if you win, do you really win though?
I truly hope you come to terms or some sort of peace with yourself about the situation. I know how shitty it can feel to be wronged. For that I am truly sorry @noganoo, sorry you feel that something you supported betrayed you. I wish this upon no person. I wish this to never happen to me. I know we can never understand how you feel, but the best way to do that is express it in a way we can relate to.
Sadly, @noganoo only has empathy for himself. Your words do you credit but they are wasted on him. Our resources are better spent supporting those who are clearly, demonstrably worth every second.
Most of the time when people are to these extremes there is no talking with them. Nothing can change their stance. We just have to at least give them a chance. Even if they disregard it, hopefully it keeps a subconscious tally of moments of unconditional support. Eventually it may be enough for them to reflect on their actions with some empathy for others. I think if we don't try, we have failed him and helped him fail himself.
@noganoo has failed himself and to allow his failure to continue to harm other innocents would be our failure. All I care about at this point is peacefully showing @ausbitbank and @krystle in no uncertain terms that they are not dealing with this alone and that they are cherished and valued and they they can rely on this community when the chips are down. They've earned it. Who they are and what they represent is abundantly clear. I hope @noganoo stops, develops some empathy and a new approach, goes away or is shunned to complete ineffectiveness. Right now, shunning seems the only effective means we have and it requires a community response.
Thank you so much, I just don't understand why he went after me and the kids we have nothing to do with him - I really have tried to steer clear of these types of posts and behaviour in general.
But hearing you say this -
Made me a little teary, his threats and attacks have provoked us to respond in this manner and now we look like the bad ones flagging him - I just don't know what else to do, I can't sit by and let him post images of my children with lies about them.
It was so cruel and the thing is he meant to do this, he searched and stole the image then took the time to write the post - then drop by my posts and threaten me and so many others.
I have no idea what the solution is when people behave like this, but surely free speech shouldn't mean your words have no consequence - say what you want, but you can't control how people will react to them.
Thanks for your support, it really means a lot.
I completely agree with you. The only thing is if we make the lines completely drawn it's just going to exacerbate this whole thing. The community will come together and right now he's on a rally to recruit people to go against all of this. I'm saying this will divide us, when it should unite us to resolve something that has become vulgar.
The community should respond, but not with hostility.
@benjojo ^^^ read @naganoo 's edited comment.
I just don't understand what I ever did to him, besides ignore him when he started attacking @ausbitbank - I have always stayed silent and then to have this happen, I just can't justify the bs.
@krystle, I feel furious! I read your whole post and then all the comments right down till the end. And believe me, my blood is boiling. I'm with you. It doesn't matter if my child is an autistic genius, is 'normal', or is mentally challenged. As a Mom, I have a natural duty to protect my children, and I would on principle look down upon anybody, and burn to the ground, anybody who fights his battle by throwing rocks at my children to hurt me or my husband.
I'm relatively new at Steemit. And I remember voting for @ausbitbank's witness just last week because I was impressed with his selflessness and generosity towards others at Steemit. I'm sad to see this happening now. And it is a shame that the occasion of your reaching a 1000 followers is marred by this degenerate's actions.
What facilities do we have for repairing this? I see we have no police system and no mechanism to reveal the face of the depraved person hiding shamelessly under the cloak of anonymity. Or do we? I'm also wondering if disabling that person's movements altogether can be another option? Akin to putting him under house arrest. Can somebody disable all the fields on his blog which might ever enable him to raise his voice or to command his bots again? If he's left without any ammunition, he can no longer disturb the peace. Why let him spam and then flag him? Why not cut off his steam before he starts inflating again?
Enjoyed the response. I believe and back freedom of speech 100% but some people lack the moral fiber and couth to actually have a say. Yep, he crossed a line. Good thing he's an armchair blabbermouth behind a CPU screen cause where I'm from if it had been in person he'd have had his teeth put through the back of his head.
First off congratulations on your 1000! This is a wonderful achievement us minnows can only dream of one day. This was a very eye opening article since my pals in #yunk have run across people like this also. I didn't know how malicios some people could be on this platform until my steemit buddy @krazykrista said in the #yunk channel that there was someone really being truly terrible. Since being new and apparently naive to steemit I just imagined him saying a few terrible things or just trolling a bit.
When I saw @krazykrista 's post Bilalhaider is on a mission to ruin steemit chat. I was so appalled by how his actions were so spiteful and their words were so advisedly. He was attacking everyone in the chat room for trying to help him. He was complaining that he had good followers, but his post lack attention or reward. They were simply trying to tell him to improve his content after reviewing his page. The whole thing switched over like he was a ticking time bomb lying in wait for someone to poke him with a "you need to actually do work" stick.
Reading this sickens me @krystle. I'm sorry that you and @austibank have to deal with this sort of human garbage on here. @austibank has been so supportive to me since the beginning. Heck he was my first real witness vote and it was out of the blue. I think he just saw that I had potential to help the community. I'm so sorry about the things that they're saying about your kids, people should never make it that personal even if they would don't mean it in the first place. Anyone that goes to that level should be reviewed regardless of their intent.
The whole mission of our #yunk is to provide a better place on the internet and internet platforms. What if this is the first belief system just for the internet? IRL people have their manners and their etiquette, but when it comes to their online window, more things tend to be permissible. What if this gave you a sense of best practices for your fellow digital man? What if we needed something to let us know that community can become stronger than a troll? What if yunk becomes such a belief of existence on the internet that it connects people organically from just hearing the term yunk alone?
I'm baffled to what people hope to gain for being this cruel on here. They won't have a long shelf life on this platform and they won't have much in the form of support from the like minded. We're here to grow a community and help each other. People that go directly the opposite of that belong on 4chan.
Congratulations again on your achievement and forget what those rotten cancer people have to say.
Thanks so much for your kind words, and I absolutely agree people need a moral compass to help them with empathy online.
Steemit has been an amazing place, I'm one year in and so far I have had maybe three bad experiences - obviously this is the worst by far, but steemit itself has been an overwhelmingly supportive in general.
I try to stay away from negativity and that is why the post is more of an explanation, to our followers about our actions and not encourage them to act on the info - especially if the flagging continues.
I've been here a year and he will have difficulty hurting me, but if others with more power join his cause - it could damage my account permanently.
Steemit is the perfect place for us to all get along, I hope to soon enjoy being a happy helpful member of this community again.
Cheers
Unfortunately there are many people like that at Steemit. Instead of looking to produce think about destroy who is winning.
Usually these people are loosers that try to support themselves in other people.
I wish success @krystle :)
Yeah he is a jealous petty man, only interested in making money and when no one voted on his poor quality posts he lashes out and plays the victim - thanks for your support.
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This is very sad and upsetting. With all the positive effects of decentralization, there's also the negative effect that such a horrible troll can carry on hurling abuse on other users..I saw that this guy attacked @uwelang as well, but not as deeply personally as to you..
I am very sorry that your children and family had to suffer such an uncalled for attack. It's only natural that you're like a mother tigress coming out to defend her cubs!
I'm glad you're ranting here though..hopefully it is one avenue for you to let out all that anger and rage..those will only injure you if you hold it in..
I'm so glad that this is being stated to the community. It's important for us to be aware of abusers like this on here. We are only as fast as our slowest person with it comes to growth. This sort of user will ultimately invite more cruel verbal attacks if don't call them out on it.
Yep and with this particular user, he tends to act out attack a bunch of people and then play the victim and get a new wave of support from those who don't know any better.
Such manipulative and superficial behaviour..urghh..
Yes, this totally goes against the ideology of Yunk..if I got it right :)
Lol I like your wording with -
Yeah I agree I came out swinging, he triggered me (probably the only way to trigger me honestly) - my goal is to vent and move on with my life.
But steemit needs to find a way to deal with this sort of user in the future, as we grow it will only become harder and things like this need to have consequences that actually impact the person.
haha that's the image that was invoked in my mind while reading through your text.. :))
Your goal is a good one..it will help that your husband is actively rallying through and trying to come up with a solution..yes, I really hope that he will not go scot-free and face some sort of penalty for his atrocious behaviour..
You are right that as we grow, it will get harder and harder to nip these kind of abuse in the bud..sighs..
Oh, that is horrific!!! I'm a mom of 3 and I feel your rage. I have also noticed the Christian posts. Christian users should be up in arms at having their faith represented by that %$#@! Happy Steemit birthday, mine is on Saturday. Much love to your precious children.
Indeed horrifying, I agree with you @onetree and putting on the "cloak of christianity". Real christians don't talk like that.
It's horrific. Unfortunately I have met so many people who use that
to hide behind while committing atrocious acts. I agree real Christians would never talk like that.
I don't know you, but @ausbitbank is one of the best people on Steemit. Whatever I can do to help, just say the word! And you have another follower!
First of all, I am so sorry @krystle ma'm to hear all this bad experience. I have a great deal of respect for you and @ausbitbank sir. You two are actively doing a lot of things for this community from the very beginning. How dare somone like @noganoo come and curse your children like this. It is totally inhuman. Is he really a human because no man is ever dare to curse the children of others. Even enemies dont do that, so how dare he did something like that? I am actually shocked to hear this.
Because someone who have a great deal of respect on steemit and who people loves, had to suffer this depress situation. @ausbitbank sir has always been so helpful to me and you're also doing great ma'm. I would definitely do the best in my power to flag @noganoo because he has to be taught some lesson for his disrespectful behavior.
A person can bear anything but when it comes to his/her children, then e won't bear anything. And all this just for thie sake of some upvotes. How shameful is this for @noganoo. I am with you @krystle ma'm. If you or @ausbitbank sir ever need anything, I am just a click away.
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We all have some drawbacks and may be you two have some differences but cursing his children is not the way to deal with it. No one gave you any rights to do so. Even enemies dont do that. At least you should have kept this in mind.
Fork him and his bot-net off the blockchain. That's my recommendation. I think we could reach a pretty strong consensus for that.
Whilst I like the idea and never want to see or hear from him again and I think steemit would be all around a better place without him, I'm not sure this is the way to do it - it's a slippery slope once we start kicking people of the network.
Generally though I hope he is flagged into oblivion, moves on with his life and maybe gets himself the help he so clearly requires to become a functioning member of society.
I vote yes to this ^^^^^^^^ "GET @noganoo OFF THE BLOCKCHAIN" oh and his 1223 other accounts as well.
I'm so sorry to read that this has happened. This is truly unacceptable and way beyond normal internet trolling. Too far is too far. I hope you'll never have to hear from him again.
I delegated most of my remaining SP to the bot ausbit created, hope that helps.
Thanks so much man, we really appreciate the support it means a lot at times like these.
You can see noganoos confirmed accounts so far here :
https://steemit.com/@nogbot/followed
There is more - I found 1269 so far.
Then you can do a lot of good things instead of bad ones.
Here in Fort Collins, CO, I work in a program specifically for children with Autism. I have worked closely with over 40 children with Autism, and I can tell you they are not "sickly," they are with out a doubt some of the most amazing, genuine, often brilliant people on this Earth! They are specialist who know their preferred topics better than anyone! They teach me as much as I teach them. I often believe the kids I work with are secretly super heroes! To me, Autism is not the problem...the problem is society's conditioning and negative perspective on anything outside of what is deemed to be "normal." Just know, there are people out there (like me) who consider people with Autism some of their favorite people on Earth, and those who put it down are the ones missing out on the gifts people with Autism have to offer. 💙
As a father of a boy with Autism, and an uncle to another, thank you. As it was once pointed out to me shortly after my son's diagnosis, 'normal' is a setting on the washing machine.
I really love this!!! I am also a father to a genius!
Wow your comment is amazing thank you so much, it means more because you have a clue lol.
I agree with you both of my kids are unique amazing individuals that have amazing abilities for children of their age, they struggle in some areas but excel in others so far beyond others their ages it amazes.
Being an autism mum I know a lot of autistic people of a variety of ages, every single one has been phenomenal in one way or another.
To quote the great Temple Grandin
I believe in some ways autism could be an evolutionary movement, of our species we are yet to fully understand or appreciate.
🙌🏽 Temple Grandin taught at CSU here in Fort Collins. She's wonderful! There are many forms of communication, and I believe in promoting a voice for Autism because these folks have amazing focused fortes! Have you ever heard someone say, they may think you don't fit in, but I think you're the missing piece?
Wow. All I can say is wow. That @naganoo guy is NOT, and I repeat NOOOOT a Christian. If by their fruits you shall know them, this guy has revealed himself to be a devil. And to talk about going after your kids, that even more "dragon" speech. I just don't see any justification for this kind of behavior.
Out of support, you got my Follow and UpVote ;-)
My heart goes out to your family, as a mother I can't be silent and just ignore this. You have every right to voice out and protect your children no matter what. Keep posting what's right, moral and true. God bless your family!
One thing you may not have understood about people like this is jealousy, weakness, and low self esteem. You have made great progress and people like @noganoo just can't take the fact that you are earning more because you have worked and helped the community more. Imaginations and wishes of how he should have been the one in your shoe can lead to reactions like this. No one can blame you for your reactions, as even the most patient person in the world would have reacted after all that he keeps putting you through. I am just wondering the amount of progress he would have made if he had focussed his efforts on building his account instead of exhibiting his losing personality on innocent delicate children. Thank you for the advice, and don't let him discourage you in any way or waste your precious time
https://steemit.com/steem/@ausbitbank/i-just-bought-a-bunch-of-steem-warning-quick-note-about-self-voting
This is a lie and I can prove it - unlike all your claims.
I had a run in a long time back with that douche bag. I sent the information to @AusbitBank on twitter, but because Mark C. Bretl has a criminal record, his address is listed publicly along with his criminal record.
If he does not stop the harassment I would call the police and file a report. You are not entitled to threaten someones children.
Hear that you fucking piece of shit @noganoo?
As for the whales, @steemit, @dan, @ned, @jamesc, and others they should have removed Mark's account a long time ago for violating multiple terms of service.
Don't let negative people keep you down. Stay positive and those subhumans will find someone else to focus their low level energy on.
I literally just got approved logged in and this is my first read... learning already😕
I am truly sorry that this was your first introduction to steemit, this is not indicative of the site in general or the users for that matter - This is one person so please don't let this dishearten you on your journey.
I only wrote the post because I think people have a right to know what he said, I am not inciting action from others merely explaining my own actions regarding this issue.
This really isn't the normal situation and that is why this post is doing so well, people get he went way to far - again I am sorry this is your first impression.
Let me know if you need any help getting going, there are a lot of new user guides out there to help as well - you might also like to check out the discord chat room Peace Abundance and Liberty https://discord.gg/6uYvku there are thousands of super friendly people in there to chat to or to get help or advice.
Good luck on your journey, steemit is amazing - the internet is full of trolls.
congratulations another one is added to your list keep steeming!
I'm sorry to read this @krystle. I hope you and @ausbitbank can get those bad moment behind you as fast as possible and hopefully not being too negatively affected by this very frustrating situation.
I love you, both of you and I look forward to help you my friends in this rough situation.
Thanks so much for all of your support it means a lot, we just want to put an end to his hateful and malicious intent - he is scourge on steemit a pathological liar and general sociopath.
Your help means so much, especially with a situation like this - and it won't be forgotten.
I just don't know how to address you nog... I just don't know...
Like @benjojo says: he's a bully and obviously willing to pay money to be able to do his bullying. Even with bullies, I always try to understand why someone does it. I think he has to be a very unhappy person, unhappy with his life, himself or life in general. I don't know. Otherwise he wouldn't do stuff like this. People with a life and at least some kind of happiness in it don't do these kinds of things. I am so sorry this is happening to you @Krystle and @Ausbitbank and it is unforgivable to lash out and wish ill on innocent children. I know if someone said something like that about my kids I'd rip their heads off...And I am usually a quiet, kind person, but don't mess with my kids! Another thing though: A LOT of 'Christians' think that everyone outside of their own Christian faith are satanists. I've heard it a lot when I used to say that I have no religion but if one wants to place me in a box I'd be closer to shamanism than anything. The abuse I got over that is unreal. People calling me satanist and the likes. Explaining to them I don't believe in Satan so therefore I can't be one didn't help either. So he might be one of those...
I hope this gets solved soon, for you and everyone who's affected by his deeds and for everyone he might haunt in the future. Stay strong!
Thanks for your kind words, I do believe that is his stance - you're not christian so you're a satanist.
Yeah anyone goes near my kids, I'm likely to lose my shit - I just hope we can find a way to deal with issues like this in the future, so the burden isn't on the victim to defend themselves against bigotry.
Actually, anybody who doesn't vote for him when he asks them to is a Satanist in his mind.
He had asked me to vote for him a while back and I told him that I wouldn't because of the way he was flaming your husband back then. So he told me that he was sorry and shouldn't have done that, and that he would only post 'positivity' for a week and he hoped that maybe after that I would change my mind. So we ended the conversation on a friendly note. But not two days later he created a rant post about me! My name was in the title of the post, and 'satanists' was the first tag.
So yeah, he throws around the term satanist very loosely.
Then his next post a very short time after the first rant (which was the first time I ever flagged him) was about how he really should not try to call out people for their sins, but leave that up to God. So I flagged that post too since he had created a brand new sin, never mentioned in the bible, the sin of not voting for noganoo.
It's so ridiculous.
kyrstle, I am so sorry that you were the object of his wrath this time.
(( hugs ))
All the best to you!
Hey has no evidence to support his claims we hate jewish people either, he is a total sociopath and I will never forgive or forget his words - he is spamming everyone commenting in this thread with more lies and bs so I am posting the actual evidence of him saying he wants our kids to die.
Every comment he leaves he is just opening himself up to more flags, they will be coming I am livid and yeah we threaten him now - after an attack on our kids yeah you bet.
He is delusional to the extreme he claims to be a christian but then lacks the most basic principles of the religion, and yeah I really don't care if he calls me a satanist - but saying anything we did lead to our children having a medical condition, just shows his clear ignorance.
Thanks for your support I know he has been a thorn in many sides for some time, I have tried so hard to stay out of it I really hadn't realised how many others had suffered at his delusions - I'm sorry you to were a victim of his hate and fake christian values.
No that's not what I said and you know it. I have logs of all of our chats ever since it was first made clear that you were sociopath. You have no idea about my lifestyle, children or what's in my heart.
Move on with your life, enjoy your freedom while you can.
He has done very public mistakes @ausbitbank sir. His account go flagged almost completely. He lost all his value on steemit. Because of only one grave mistake -- He cursed children. Even the enemies won't do that. I visited his account and he got all the necessary criticsm from all the people. Even I flagged by you once, but I didn't do this grave mistake. I read about your life. You're a proud father sir. I respect you and @krystle ma'm wholeheartedly.
Thank you sir for all you contribution.
I wish you and @aubitbank all the best and I'm extremely welcome for everything you have done for me.
Resteemed, this post needs exposure!
Unacceptable!
I am so sorry to hear that this has happenned to you and yours. I must say this is the worst i have read of the negative side of Steemit.
I have worked with people with disabilities for over 40 years, in many capacities. My wife and i have cared for developmentally delayed adults for 20 year or more. I am closing down my rehabilitation business but will continue working for a non-profit (@scilwa) as a youth in transition coordinator. I work and have worked with those on the autistic spectrum....i offer this as background...
Keep doing the good you do for your family...thats #1... Special needs kids are just that special. Keep writing what feels right for you....your current post? It is wonderful expression of your innerself. I could sense your pain and struggle on how to best handle this.
I think your post is pefect...most of the repsonses you have recieved seem supportive...i come from a belief system that what you put out comes back 3-fold...the universe has a way of taking care of things. This "person" has a lot of karma coming his way...this person is far from Christian...i don't fokkow any one religion but i have read their text...i find it interesting that so many do not follow what, in this case, Jesus taught. This person is not a Christian...
Follow your heart and keep doing the good you have been. Add me to the list of those who applaud you, and respect what you do in life. My heart goes out to you...
Forgive my rambling (i am tired) and please forgive any misspelled words (i have dyslexia) and i am on my phone typing this.
We have barely shared a few words, but I hope that changes over time. I'm grateful for your presence on the platform, and can appreciate the raw fury you are expressing. He's crossed the line so many times. I'm sorry he's chosen to vent his emotional stability towards your family especially after aus defended him. One day I hope he receives the counseling and healing he needs.
First off, I hardly torment anyone. I just try to live in peace. Secondly, I'm consoleing someone you said you hoped their kids died among another host of nasties. Thirdly, you really do need help. I think you should seek counseling. For abuse, anger management, possibly bipolar. I dont' know, I'm not a therapist, but your actions and responses don't show healthy affect. Seriously dude. You need help.
That is insane. I wish you and @ausbitbank the best. Picking on someone for having children on the autism spectrum is very messed up. Some people enjoy the type of attention they get from this type of behavior. Stay strong!
He is a liar and there is no excuse for what he said, it's the only attention he is able to get - cheers for the support.
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Sorry to hear this @krystle. Hugs to you and @ausbitbank. That kind of behaviour should not be acceptable anywhere. Luckily there are lots of great people on Steemit too. Thanks for everything you guys do.
Thanks so much @thinknzombie we really appreciate it, there are so many brilliant people on here steemit is amazing - he is just insignificant and pathetic.
@krystle Its a shame you had to write this post actually. Its a shame that someone would act like this to you guys and bring your kids into the discussion too. All over some rewards and a bit of STEEM. Life is way too important to be carrying on like that.
Then to read the apology post that was written only hours after this post apologising for those same poor actions, only to turn around and start flagging people again. WTF. ANyway, there are a shit-tin of comments on this post which shows you the real support out there. Chin up. Hater will always be haters!
Thanks man I appreciate your comment and all your support, he is all through this thread spreading lies about us again - anyone with eyes can see him apologize yesterday and then straight back to it.
I am so amazed by all the support we are getting, I guess when the person that attacks you has been attacking everyone else as well - soon your side gets bigger, the noobs will soon learn not to fall for his lies.
Krystle, Billytwohearts here, regardless of any consequence, if there is anything I can do to assist you and your family please do not hesitate to call on me. I do not wield much power, but what I have you are all welcome to all of it.
Walk tall my friend. Resteemed ..............billytwohearts
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Your support is more than enough, no need to get yourself tangled up in his hate and spite - your kind words are so appreciated, thank you.
Upvoted and Resteemed. Congratulations on reaching 1,000 followers!!! I recently reached the same milestone, myself. It takes time and hard work, but it's worth it to engage the Steemian community - it can only enhance your life. Don't let the turkeys get you down.
This guy is a real piece of work. Not good for SteemIt. Try not to get overly upset or hung up on toxic people - just identify them as such, remove them from your life & associations as much as possible, forget about them, and move on with what you need to keep on doing.
You threatened to blow people away at steemfest. I can't wait for you to go to prison Mark.
Regarding all these, there is one thing that concerns me the most.
After such a long time that we are witnessing this (as it didn't start just a day or two before) are the #whales and #developers of this platform so powerless to stop that once for all, or they simply don't care?!
I know there are a lot of people with a lot of power discussing this, the big issue is the platform is decentralised - we need to find a solution we can use again if the situation arises again, and be sure we can fairly deal with these types of situations.
So far flagging is helping his rep is falling and every flag he gets it drops a little further, yesterday he was in the mid 60's I believe he is now at 55 - he keeps spreading the hate it wont be long before everything he ever says or does, is hidden from the world and we don't have to pay him the attention he clearly desires.
I was about to ask same question !
There is no way for a quick action for such situations, because if not that will make the whole platform a promising place for reveng and bulling !
I can agree with you that it's not possible to react to every single such thing with some sort of penalties for all the reasons you've mentioned if nothing else because every coin has two sides.
But isn't it, on the other hand, exact revenge, and bullying we want to avoid, especially as this is not an isolated case or even more, knowing that it lasts for several months by now?!
If you don't mind, please, take a look at my above comment as I believe it might better clarify to you why I'm asking this.
I am a father of an 8 year old on the spectrum myself, and I can't even begin to understand what you're feeling. I'm sorry you have had to endure this.
Good post, and don't forget it's nice to be nice people who aren't always get what they deserve in the end . Good luck
Thanks for the support.
Your right it does need to stop
The only threats happened after he wished the death of our children and then stole a photo of them and wrote a post saying they were "sickly" I assume he means autistic and disabled because he believes we are satanists - because we wouldn't vote on his spam.
I stand by all I have said, you wish harm to my children I wish harm to you.
I'd probably get the police involved
ALL children are blessing! I bet your kids are awesome! There are some very ignorant people out there who don't get that "different" does not equal "less". In fact, if people just spent more time focusing on our similarities with one another the world would be a MUCH better place.
I wish you, your partner and your two pure, innocent, incomparably brilliant children all the best. (You sound like an awesome mom!)
Thanks man I appreciate it, I know you understand the ignorance being spouted here and I agree the world would be a better place if people could stop building barriers and hate.
My kids are unbelievable, they are making leaps and bounds it's hard to keep up - thank you for your kind words they mean a lot to us. Cheers
You have my sympathy.
I have received some hateful comments on a post of mine and did not hesitate to flag this minnow's posts but then he had almost no SP. My instinct was to mute him but then I decided it would be a better tactic to follow him to see him sink without trace which he appears to have done. Mobilising support from the community has got to be the best thing to do! Congratulations on your milestone btw.
Thanks for your support, yeah for the most part the community has been amazing everything can be seen - everyone knows what he is doing, and those who have been here for a while have seen him do this countless times.
So far I've watched his rep fall at least 5 points and with the fact it gets harder to increase rep, that also means once it starts to fall it falls faster and with less effort.
Sorry to hear hear the troubles you both are going through. I do wonder how is it that whales have allowed this kind of behavior to last so long. Maybe even the Steemit Inc should be included since he's openly admitted to owning of 1000's of accounts! @ned @andrarchy ?
Thanks and I agree steemit inc needs to be the ones to at least delegate power to a witness controlled bot, that when the witnesses either all or a majority agree they can use the bot to deal with accounts like this.
That way it's controlled by the people through who they elect as witness, rather than the company itself regulating which is a bit against the goals of steemit - just one idea but it still has it's drawbacks and issues.
That's a good idea to built on.
I think it's crucial to show how we treat abusers and trolls in Steemit as an example. People are watching.
Haha, that's funny really if true.
This is a really sad situation and I can understand the anger, I dont understand why anyone want to act this way. I love this comunity and what it stands for, sad that there are people who wants to mess that up.
Hope ur situation gets better and that u wont have to feel like this anymore.....and wishing death on children is just so low and crossing the line. Take care and I hope u and ur family the best of luck
Thanks so much for your kind words, I really appreciate it - steemit is a great place and we can't let one or two bad eggs ruin it for everyone.
I just want him to leave us alone, not ever mention my children again - then I can go back to being a happy steemian again :)
Cheers
No didnt know that. Thats terrible and no sain person would ever say something like that.
Im sorry for what u and ur family has been going trough because of them.
I really hope there is a way to block them for good thats not the kind of people we want here. Wish u all the best♡
Just so you know, he is lying to you this is the guy who wished death upon my children - don't fall for his attempts at making him out to be the victim.
I know I did get that to late I wasn't supposed to answer his message I was talking to someone who had a bad message and then I thought she sended me another me so I answered without looking at the name.
Really sorry about that.
He is really mental to put your family through so much pain and threatening you and your family is crazy.
Thank you for the comment and I wish you all the best of luck
Congratulations!
I feel like we all should pay less attention to jerks. We know they are here on steemit and their goal to get our attention and energy. If they won't get both here on Steemit they just disappear and would migrate on different platform
I agree but the problem is, when the jerks then act like they are being attacked and gain support from new users - then it just cycles like this has been for months now, it's just so frustrating.
I'm so sorry this is happening to you and your family. This is the kind of behavior that flies on Reddit and I hope Steemit doesn't go down that same path.
Thanks for your support, there are a lot of people tackling the issue right now - the issue is that we need to find a way to deal with attacks like this in the future, without going against the general themes of the platform.
It's not an easy solution, other companies could just ban accounts but we don't really want to do that here - but how do we punish those who act in such a manner?
It's such a hard problem to solve. Any solution I can think of is problematic. Even community mute lists could be use nefariously.
Is it naive of me to think that these people will soon lose interest or otherwise grow up? But, (I argue with myself) what if every time a user matures, we get a new user who is yet immature?
I think a platform that sacrificed anonymity would have more options for quelling this type of behavior. I want a platform in which no person is anonymous, but I also want a platform in which every person is anonymous - so I'm torn.
My heart hurts for you. I am saddened that someone attacked your children. I am sadden that someone carried the banner of Christianity, while attacking you. I am saddened that abuse and bullying are invading Steemit.
I am a religious person, a follower of Jesus. The hate that was shown to you was wrong. The message directed to you and your children was wrong. I can not take away what was said, but I stand against it.
@sumatranate , I second your comment both as a Christian and as an Autism mom.
Thank you for your support, it is greatly appreciated.
Whilst I am not religious, I have many friends and family members that are - and we're talking many different religions here.
This is the worst representation of christians I have witnessed since the westboro church crazies spread their hate, I have never met a christian who would act in such a disgraceful way - he does not represent your religion and the clear values you hold.
I will never blame a group for the actions of a few, this is why my comment regarding muslims - he is clearly xenophobic from his own writing.
I appreciate your support and kind words, your a good representation of a true christian - kind, compassionate and caring, thank you.
This is very sad..sad.I don't know you but I really hope there's a way to kick this kind people.
Nobody deserves this kind of abuse, especially for your children. Is there any Steemians cleaners to help to wipe them out forever.
I'm new also here. I also encounter this kind of opportunistic person and using their power to get the innocent one like me.
I wish you well and hope you can find some strength to let this negative feeling go away.
xxx
Agreed. I prefer happy people.
Greetings of peace,
I also don't know you personally and the other side of your story. I'm hoping that you all can find healing strength and peace to go through this..
I can only pray for both of you.
:(:(:( huh!
I can really only pray or both of you.
That is a very big issue.
It is unfortunate that this has happened and you guys have to go through this.
Hopefully soon all of this will be resolved.
Thanks I hope so too :)
Well since I play a lot of online games, such comments are nothing new to me. In fact, probably like 100 people wished my family to die, wished me cancer and all kinds of bullshit over a game. It's hard to deal with these kinds of people.
its not that hard actually, you just don't take it personally, it's that simple.
Steemit is focused on gaining users that are not used to this however, we should not let this kind of activity just be or this place will end up very bad.
Yes these kinds of people must be dealt with.
Yeah I've had a lot of dodgy comments over time, but taking an image of my children and saying they are sickly because he thinks we are satanists seems a bit beyond the realm of normal trolling.
It's hard to deal with, but it will be dealt with - that is for sure.
Wow what a stalker.
So heres a meme to keep the stalker away
(It worked for Harry Potter)
The dark side of free speech...
Isn't autism a deeper version of introversion? When kids with high IQ have problems entering the social environment. I'm really interested in this topic and how it can be helped so children can actually become independent in future.
I am convinced after much research that autism is linked to heavy metal posioning, vaccine injury amd digestive issues. Not introversion. Until we as people unite and stop the government and mandated 'medicines' kids will continue to have these issues. Cause once they do, they are clients to the meeical system for life. Greed can do terrible things.
Hmm, yeah. I probably have to dig deep to understand it correctly. Thanks!
Not to be that guy, but its not linked to any of those things from credited independent studies. Such mandated medicines have saved lives and kept more than one generation from being wiped off the face of this earth. Digestive, Seriously? You think that just cause someone eats a specific way they can develop to be on the spectrum?
You can be that guy. If you respond, it must be because it triggered you to do so. That is not ehat I meant by digestive issues. And I agree vaccines have saved lives. We are clearly on other sides of the board here. I have witnessed both from a big picture. Have a great day!
I've added GMO food and glyphosate poisoning to your list @egregorian.
Indeed, those also have been the cause of many things. Too many we are not even aware of.
Many medicines, drugs, vaccines, abused people more than we know.
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Omg @krystle I'm so sorry we someone on steemit like this idiot. You don't deserve this kind of treatment from anyone. All the best. I will follow you
There are lots of ways to think about anger, hurt, defending your family, or revenge. What you are thinking about these right now is the most important. Be true to yourself, feel it, and be it, just as you already are.
Knowing that, also realize that you are constantly changing. How you feel today is very different than 4 days ago, and 4 days from now is anyones guess. All the different ways you feel about it are in parallel. Some ways you feel might be in conflict, but both are true, all are true, and all are false. False to a low degree and true to a high degree, but both at once, all at once.
It's all true and all false and all changing.
Only you own your now, your future, and even your thoughts on your past. You and only you have the power to be you, as you add more thoughts, truths, or feelings to this situation.
When you wrote this you wanted to be mad, to a high degree. While at the same time to a low degree you wanted to be calm, to be free. Even now, you want both, which is no real conflict. It is our perfect human brain at work being who we are.
What do you want most now or in the future, for you and your family? I care about that more than a troll I just muted. I support what you support. I support fear, hate, doubt, confusion, defense. I support acceptance, grief, self love, recovery. I support that all the world supports itself in a perfect harmonious way, including you on this subject. Thanks for sharing your story. It reminds me of my many stories.
Keep up the great work! Upvoted.
I am saddened by the problems that hit your family.
Hopefully you remain patient in facing this ordeal.
I can only suggest that you stay calm in taking every decision.
You do not get carried away by emotions.
I'm sure the person who hurt you will definitely get a worthy reply from god.
You have to keep the spirit.
I will always support you.