Why I've just taken my delegation away from @informationwar

in #blog6 years ago (edited)

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To take funding (and then supporting) those who's world view and agenda is not one of truth but power and control, that is the opposite of truth.

There is no truth in the postmodernists philosophy,but ther is sitting on fences, playing one side off against another, with the appearance of wisdom, but only causing internal psychological discord to the listener.

Information, even when expressed through opinions, are based on objective facts.

Information is based in a presumption of a truth existing.

There is no such thing as objective truth in the postmodernist philosophy.

I brought this issue up months ago, and it was not pursued. So I left it, and just watched, instead.

When the @informationwar is participating in the psi-op, there are only two possibilities.

They are willing participants in the psi-op.

They have been duped themselves.

I DO NOT think they are willing participants.

I DO think, they have been duped.

And if they've been duped by such OBVIOUS fakery posing as something else, then in my opinion, they don't deserve my delegation.
(a whole 25 SP)

CLEAN YOUR FUCKIN' HEADS, boys.
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Please.
This fight is for truth and rationality - so how can you square the circle by supporting the opposite world perspective ?
How?

Who?what? where? how?

Go figure it out for yourselves. You need to, to maintain any sort of integrity.
I did tell you....

Funny, isn't it?
I'm using the @informationwar tag for this post!

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What are you talking about. Specifics please. I’m not sure from reading your post whether you agree with postmodernist philosophy or not.

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'Postmodern' and 'philosophy' in the same sentence is an oxymoron.

Specifics have already been given a long time ago.
It's time for people to think for themselves.
(As I said in the reply above).

Details will be very forthcoming, believe me. But not yet.

Lucylin finally figured out that we are controlled by Russia. Took you long enough!

Smearing me only makes you look very petty and silly ( and more than happy to employ leftist alinsky style tactics?...not an argument, eh? lol).

I thought @informationwars was better than this.

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Ht matt, mark, luke or john...

oh, keep posting, please keep posting.

...giving me so much material...
hilarious.

The reaction from 'users on steemit', (wink , wink), is more predictable than gravity.

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He has no idea what he is talking about. He made a post a few days ago in an alcohol induced haze and is randomly posting nonsense now as some sort of revelation.

See here https://busy.org/@lucylin/i-ve-just-uncovered-something-very-interesting-i-feel-like-assange

I'm curious who you think "they" are that are causing you grief.

There is no 'think' about this - these are verifiable facts.
(based upon @informationwar ethos of truth and transparency, the reason I joined, contributed, and delegated).

A 100% voluntary group dedicated to Truth, Liberty, Freedom, Wisdom, Philosophy, Family Protection, Anti-Censorship, Decentralization, and more!

I did mention it sometime ago to @informationwar ...It went unheeded.

If you let a fox in chicken coop after being told about it....and then reward them for breaking in...
If you let big pharma fund your anti-vaxxing campaign....and then reward them for every vaccination...
If you let the government fund your anti-government campaign...and then reward them with more control...

Need I go on....?

Would you take funding off Stalin, and then upvote his posts on the evils of communism?

Any answer except 'no' shows a lack of integrity and just highlights @informationwar as a financially motivated tool, for profit.
You can't have any of those things in your header, without integrity holding it all together.
Part and parcel.

A 100% voluntary group dedicated to Truth, (integrity required)
Liberty, (Integrity required)
Freedom, (Integrity required)
Wisdom, (Integrity required)
Philosophy, (Integrity required)
Family Protection, (Integrity required)
Anti-Censorship, (Integrity required)
Decentralization,(Integrity required)

I can assure you that it will it all become very clear.
(I'm hoping 'being duped' is the reason, btw- in which case @informationwar can thank me later, for bringing it up - again).

Cleaning your heads at @informationwar HQ through discovery, will be a good start.

Identifying what a fox is, is a far better education then me sending you a screenshot. I already tried that a while back.

This is not a game to me.
Maybe a code of ethics might be good step forwards to maintain any integrity of those committed to all these things that you mention in the @informationwar header.
(after a fox hunt).

.....Otherwise they are just catchy, emotive words on header aren't they?
(and that would be called propaganda,)

I'm going to ask you this one more time. Who are you referring to as "They" like a name or names would be wonderful because I really don't read much of your postings and I'm not going try and decipher them without it.

You'll see soon enough, matey.
I wish I could tell you now - but I won't (for reasons that will become clear).

Apologies for that.

People spouting off and calling me a liar is so not a good idea. They will hate the wait to.
(if they don't figure it out.... or perhaps they have, hence the vitriol....?)

I was hoping my post was going to serve as a wake up call.

I thought @informationwars was better than that.

You realize you're making accusations about a group while providing no names or evidence. So don't be so shocked when you upset people in that group. You claim to have evidence but won't share it. Jumping to conclusions? You really should get your shit together before you start rattling people's cages. As far as i'm concerned your reluctance to give out any names or details makes me believe your accusations are false, weak, misguided, disinformation, etc, etc. I'm done wasting my time on this but I wish you all the best of luck on your future endeavors.

You realize you're making accusations about a group while providing no names or evidence

I never thought of that. Doh.
As you may have read - this is not new, and has been pointed out in the past and ignored.

I can assure you that my shit is very together in this matter.

As far as i'm concerned you're reluctance to give out any names or details makes me believe your accusations are false, weak, misguided, disinformation,

Your conclusions are incorrect.
As I previously said, this has already been pointed out by myself - and ignored.
There is a very good reason for choosing my time to present the information.
The facts remain the same. It's all on the blockchain.

You say you have plenty of evidence but when I ask to see it NOW you say nope, maybe later. That tells me all I need to know. I'm done with this run around, bye.

Hate what? our discord is open, with only some things kept in a IW-team chat so we don't clog general chat.

A wake up call to what? Your post is non-sense.

If you have actual feedback why not already provide it?

People that are too deep asleep to be woke (not 'woke', lol) ,would see it like that wouldn't they?

I did try before - as I said in my post, and I was ignored. I didn't wake anyone up.

So know I will use a different strategy.
(I have already tried, don't forget that, as this goes on..).

"I thought @informationwars was better than that"

LOL - I always thought they are a big con job...

Same with Julian Assange though...

https://steemit.com/wikileaks/@steemtruth/deconstructing-julian-assange-and-wikileaks-his-childhood-in-a-cult

You caught me dude, its all been a con the entire time. The upvotes we give out to people who write in #informationwar tag isn't real, its all an illusion that they gain Steem from our upvote trail ;)

Seriously, what exactly is the con? We upvote stuff in the #Informationwar tag. We never have offered any pay for 4 play benefits, what is the con?? How can there even be a con? No one is guaranteed an upvote and there is no membership fee or fees... So how do we con you by upvoting your content?

By constantly supporting the pre determined "fake alt news" agenda - which is what 90% of what remains of Steemit does, and that is why there are bugger all independent bloggers still posting - in a sea of CIA AI accounts, the desired stories are always supported.

This week Julian the shill Assange is some sort of super hero...

Voting on a tag while demanding nothing is a con? Declaring our bias's beforehand? Am I missing something?

First of all, I am going to call you out as a huge liar and promoter of bullshit because of this post. This post you made is 100% made up lies with no verifiable proof, just YOUR emotions.

Everything you say in this post is legitimate paranoid schizo behaviour, if you are a paranoid schizophrenic I am sorry that you have to deal with that your whole life. Such a thing is quite a burden. If you are not, then I have no sympathy for you.

What EMOTIONAL lie should I debunk first?

Uhhh?? We aren't funded by big pharma or government... You are throwing random words out in a post and proclaiming what you say makes sense. It doesn't, your post and comments are nonsense. Usually you are quite coherent and filled with trolling(of which I usually appreciate). This post and comments contain none of that.

You want to know who funds us??? As always, we are 100% transparent it is all on the blockchain https://steemworld.org/@informationwar ... Take a look at who delegates to us and our curaiton trail. It is no secret...

A 100% voluntary group dedicated to Truth, (integrity required) - It is all voluntary, are you saying it isn't? Are the people in our group somehow not volunteers who can leave at any time(and some have)? Claiming we aren't dedicated to truth? What are "we dedicated to" then since you can somehow speak for us?

Liberty, (Integrity required) - Are you saying we don't promote liberty? Because we certainly do, especially in our podcasts.

Freedom, (Integrity required) - Are you saying we aren't about freedom? Have you listened to any of our podcasts or read anything any of us post? What delusions someone has to have to say we aren't about freedom...

Wisdom, (Integrity required) - A lot of the people who post here do have a lot of wisdom (the quality of having experience, knowledge, and good judgment; the quality of being wise.) Are you saying none of us know anything? WTF dude?

Philosophy, (Integrity required) - Some people like @krnel and others regularly post Philosophy content that we support.

Family Protection, (Integrity required) - We have ALWAYS been allied with @familyprotection from basically the start of this. Our leadership team has spoken with theirs here and there and interacted, we are on very friendly terms. Are you saying we aren't?

Anti-Censorship, (Integrity required) - The ENTIRE POINT of us posting onto the Steem blockchain is anti-censorship. If you are seriously questioning this I don't know what to say to you.

Decentralization,(Integrity required) - We all advocate decentrazlied solutions and use decentralized platforms....

First of all, I am going to call you out as a huge liar and promoter of bullshit because of this post. This post you made is 100% made up lies with no verifiable proof, just YOUR emotions.

Ok. Cheers for that.
Says a lot.

Everything you say in this post is legitimate paranoid schizo behaviour, if you are a paranoid schizophrenic I am sorry that you have to deal with that your whole life. Such a thing is quite a burden. If you are not, then I have no sympathy for you.

There is nothing paranoid or schizophrenic about facts. You are the one bringing emotional rhetoric into this.
I was explaining the disappointment of a principled organization being infiltrated.

Your over sensitive response is very interesting though.

You do realize that you've lost it, mate?

MY CLAIMS ARE VERIFIABLE (AS YOU WILL SEE)

What EMOTIONAL lie should I debunk first?

Uhhh?? We aren't funded by big pharma or government... You are throwing random words out in a post and proclaiming what you say makes sense. It doesn't, your post and comments are nonsense. Usually you are quite coherent and filled with trolling(of which I usually appreciate). This post and comments contain none of that.

You do understand the concept on analogy? Obviously not... lol.
Strange, but hey.

I just realized - your pissed off 'cos i called @information war stupid.
Ego much? That's pretty stupid as well.

All the people you listed above are excellent content writers.

I would suggest reading my post again but without alcohol.

My entire post was something that you've misunderstood.
(giving credence to the 'duped' scenario, rather than the 'complicit' one)

Yet again, you respond with no proof and just baseless accusations. Someone interested in the truth would post pics/videos/evidence or at the very least some sort of factual story that can be backed up by others. Since you didn't do any of that, all of us would assume you aren't interested in the truth.

I literally invited you to help volunteer with us awhile back and you turned it down.

I am not, and was not angry, and or taking any substance or drinking any alcohol.

You did more than call the informationwar stupid, you said we are controlled by some entity or got tricked into being controlled.

There is something wrong with you and I hope that you get mental help.

I didn't say you were controlled or being controlled.

I pointed out the philosophically impossible position of you being funded, and then supporting, people who do no see truth as a valid reality.
(relative to the ethos of truth in @informationwars).

Since you didn't do any of that, all of us would assume you aren't interested in the truth.

'Assumptions' are made by fools.

There is something wrong with you and I hope that you get mental help.

Not an argument.
I hope your ego gets help soon. It might need it when I (re)release the information....
Oh, information that you already have, btw ! lol.....doh!

"I didn't say you were controlled or being controlled."

This is not true. What you said was:

"They are willing participants in the psi-op."

You may not have meant it, because you state above (for the record, you state it also in the OP) that we are being duped. Being duped and being a willing participant aren't the same thing.

#informationwar. It's not @informationwar. You're not attacking a single account. You're attacking an entire group, of which I consider myself a part, and note that meatsacks constrain us all to various foibles and imperfections (yourself included btw) which requires a bit of allowance in order for us to all get along and work towards common goals we share.

You should note that since I self-identify as an informationwarrior, attacking #informationwar as a group that has been duped is a direct attack on me. I am humble. Such an attack may have merit. I've repeatedly requested clarification, in order that I can judge the merit of the claim, and either refute or admit it.

You do not provide that specific basis, and at this point I am feeling attacked just for being me, rather than any specific thing. Either provide a basis, or cease your baseless accusations.

Absent provision of that basis, I shall judge accordingly, and proceed as is appropriate for any source of baseless attacks.

"I would suggest reading my post again but without alcohol."

Interesting thought. I am sober as a judge, and somehow missing the 'factual' basis for your complaint. However, if I do the opposite of what you advise, perhaps things will become clear to me. I shall consider hitting the bottle hard tonite and seeing if reading your post with one eye closed helps.

I flag trash. You have been upvoted by trash. I have negated the vote from said trash.

You're assuming your assumptions are universals, as far as I can tell.

"If you let a fox in chicken coop after being told about it....and then reward them for breaking in...
If you let big pharma fund your anti-vaxxing campaign....and then reward them for every vaccination...
If you let the government fund your anti-government campaign...and then reward them with more control..."

"Need I go on....?"

There is no chicken coop. That's a metaphor, and what it's a metaphor for is unclear.
Big Pharma is not upvoting #informationwar posts to my knowledge. I suspect that is another metaphor.
Ditto for government funding.

I will grant that there are parts of my internal dialogue that are less than perfect. I expect this. I am made of meat after all. Therefore it is impossible to clean those bits relevant to your interests absent specifics. Carlos Castaneda wrote that the Curandero Don Juan said "A man of knowledge chooses his folly", not that even a man of knowledge could be without folly.

State your case please.

I hope you keep using the tag.

Pray tell, what is this psi op?
Btw psychological is done with a y.

Also, why would you shake your finger at an entire
decentralized group, are we all victims of one-think?

I'm not shaking the finger at an entire group - 99.% of posts are excellent.
I'm being critical of @informationwars

Hmm.. that user doesn't seem to exist.

Could you provide a specific example of a failure of integrity of such gravity that you felt compelled to take this action? I have literally only just got my internet back, so missed whatever you have found compelling. I'd appreciate it.

Thanks!

I will indeed sir, but not now.
Apologies.

Time for some people to start thinking around here, and providing you the info now, here, would negate that process.

It is a tactic of the "postmodernists" to use character assassination without any real evidence to bring a person down. Just sayin'.

oh yeah, I know alright.
My evidence has been presented months ago (and ignored), vis a vis my philosophical points.

The energy and effort gathered in the push back is quite amazing - I've opened a can of worms, methinks.
Good material for me.

We are waiting with bated breath for clarification.

You're gonna have to wait, matey.
I apologize for that.
It is not my intention.

Please share the evidence. Without it, you just sound like a whiney leftist.

I haven't seen any post-modernism posts in informationwar.

Your post is extremely vague and seems like an attack with 0 reasoning.

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the evidence has already been shared -months ago.

I'll be resubmitting it for everyone to see lter, for reasons of my own, which I can't share here.

Me, a leftist? lol - You haven't read my posts for the last 22 months, I will presume.

Could you at least link they post from months ago or something? I couldn't find it.

And I haven't read them, just kinda scrolled through quickly to see if I could find your gripe here.

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...it wasn't post - it was a conversation at the time.

It is not a 'gripe' , it was a philosophical question.

The response has been amazing.

It actually tells you far more about how close I was to the target, than my post ever could.

Idk. I'm still lost lol. I just don't see what you're talking about.

Looking forward to the future post about it though.

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Yes, it tells you that I love trolling people. What a surprise, you should listen to my podcasts more and hang out in our discord and you would see that rofl.

Why would I?
I don't like to 'hang out'.
I gave up 'wanting to be part of the gang' , a long time ago... that's for juveniles.

Why would you want to expose yourself to facts? I know right. Doing any amount of research would be beyond you, because you are #sosmart you just know everything.

k.

Interesting. Hope I don't miss that posting.

Resteemed good sir!

I'm very happily surprised.

And why is that? You read my Bias in this account a year+ ago, because you commented on it. You should have remembered my favorite phrase, "savor the dark and we'll turn the lights on brighter, than ever before".

Which is exactly why I resteemed your post on IW and TF account. You got some light to shine on something lets see it.