Save me, please...

in LeoFinance4 years ago

Maybe I am just tired, but I can't help feel that people aren't really into making this place what it could be at the moment. I am confident that someone will however, though it might not be through Hive - probably, it will be another corporation that will leverage everything that has been learned, take the opensource code and distribute it to the masses, while taking the majority of the value under the guise of community ownership funneled through their distributed gateways that all lead back to the same centralized base.

Move, peon!

Are we going to eternally be peons in this game as if it is the only way the game can be played?

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As I have said a thousand times before, this is about ownership of experience, not just here on Hive, but in life in general. Your life and mine are not constrained to this blockchain, nor is the blockchain outside of other aspects of life or economy, it is all intertwined. Our success here impacts our lives everywhere else we live and our failure, leaves the rest of life untouched - more of the same - the status quo.

I have run a small business for about seven years now and while I am far from financially stable, what it does give me is some level of independence, some self-direction and an ability to influence my outcomes, in some way at the least. The amount of work it has taken to earn often less than what I could get doing an average job is insane, so why not take on less work, less responsibility and the higher salary?

Freedom. None of us are or can ever be free, no matter how much money we have - but freedom in the sense that I have a say over my own outcomes is important to me, as is having the ability to work toward what I consider important.

As said, life isn't fragmented across experience, it is all one stream and influences each other and as such, there are compounding effects across all that we do, improvement and degradation. I see that everything we do is connected to everything else we have done and will do, plus it affects the lives of other people, to greater and lesser degrees. I approach Hive carrying the understanding that regardless of what happens here, the development of process and habits that I have engaged in during my time better equips me for other aspects of my off-chain life.

The job I took about a year and a half ago was a position to manage risk of employment through my own business, get into a group of people who I think will come to complement my interests, as well as build some kind of financial opportunity. Financial opportunity means having disposable income that can be used as I see fit and I have used it to add some amount to build a crypto portfolio, get into a house and hopefully, secure for my family a brighter economic future.

I haven't kept this secret and I encourage everyone to build the habits of it. The problem is though, most will not take the risk of the investment, which in this case is actual ownership. Most are perpetual employees, happily earning a wage until they can no longer earn, the economy collapses, the company they work for closes and their life of reliance comes crashing down. Then, they expect to be saved, as every life is entitled to security.

I will tell you a secret that I think everyone should think deeply on. You are entitled to nothing in this world. NOTHING. Yes, you can look at laws and change processes and the algorithms of society to better suit some or another at various points, but life itself comes with zero guarantees - no protection.

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"person that gives security"

The meaning of having a guarantee is to be reliant on someone or something else, to tie one's own security to the will of another. But these are just words, nature cares naught for contracts, social or otherwise and big business cares even less, unless there is a dollar to be made or saved - another thing nature has no desire for. Yet, we as humans crave security at the core level and are hard-wired to seek it - even if we only feel secure.

While complete security is an illusion, the closest we can get is through our own development and self-improvement so that we are as non-reliant on others as possible and the skills we have are complementary and necessary for others, so that we have something of value to trade. Nothing is for free, remember?

"Love is free"

Bullshit.

While money is the medium of exchange, that money is earned through the trade of skills that produce goods and services, skills that each of us possess and improve or neglect. If someone isn't willing to invest into building their own skillset that can be traded, why should anyone else invest into them? This is a challenge as like it or not, there are going to be many people who just aren't good enough at what they have the potential to do to compete, no matter how hard they might try.

Not everyone can do what I can do, and I can't do anywhere near what all of you who are reading this can do - we are all limited. But, limited doesn't mean we have no influence, nor does it mean we are useless. However, the world we are creating is going to at least for some time, heavily benefit those who are able to generate and store value and we are moving away from the need for unskilled labor due to automation processes and the changing demand for goods and services - which go hand in hand. We are suckers for ease and convenience, yet don't see what this does to our very own job opportunities.

Working a normal job isn't a bad thing, but the expectation that it is going to generate enough value last through to the end of one's life is likely a poor position. And, the worse the economy gets and the harder it is to get a job, the less likely it is that external groups like governments will be able to adequately support their masses. Even taxes won't be enough - as we can already see in a crisis, as country after country is going to go heavily into debt to make it appear that things are okay - printing money, but not creating owners.

This is the thing that perhaps most people don't understand about living without ownership or being saddled with debt. The jobs we have are largely busy work created to develop products and services that add very little value to our lives other than give us many to spend on goods and services that generate profits for the thinnest sliver of the population. Whenever we create something of value, like @ned, we sell out our ownership and back into the world they own - and think we won.

We keep trading our potential to own something for the experience of buying what is owned by others and is for the most part, highly disposable. They take the profit we provide them and buy what actually has value, land, gold and ideas - which they turn into more profit making enterprises.

Perhaps it is because I am tired that I see the endgame position of Hive and crypto differently to many people in the space, as while I am keen to take some "profits" and benefit my experience in some way, the real value lays in the distributed ownership where people support people and in turn, get supported. However, because nothing comes for free, we each have to think about what we are worth.

There is nothing wrong with being an employee, until you are unemployable. Due to the nature of corporations and their singular mind for profit seeking, if they can get rid of us from their roster - they will. Where will you turn and who will you ask to save you?


Oh and love is free in the giving - but there is no guarantee of receiving a return. It is no different to anything we do in this world - but the giving is something we can each control.


Taraz
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In the late 90s I walked away from the corporate world.

"The amount of work it has taken to earn often less than what I could get doing an average job is insane, so why not take on less work, less responsibility and the higher salary"?

Yes, my income at the charity is laughable, $574:82 per month, but I love what I do and I don't have a boss as the founder of Papillon since 2001. Before that I worked at several other Non Profits as a volunteer to gain the experience needed to start my own. The first year at Papillon I worked for free and during the early years mt salary was much less.

A few years ago an ex boss approached me to go and manage his Cobalt farm in the Congo at a starting salary of $4000 per month and a share in the profits.
What do you think this crazy did?

It is when I look back that I see the value that you are espousing here. In the business world there exists a saying that nobody is irreplaceable. This is a snide remark to keep all employees in line.
Thankfully there are some that cannot be kept in line under their controlling practices.
I recognized long ago that I was one of those.

Yes, it included many sacrifices, but today, almost 20 years later, Papillon has a record that many of the big charities don't have.

I have a great respect for all of those that take their lives into their own hands.
Yes, it is never easy, but where there's a will, there's a way!

The first year at Papillon I worked for free and during the early years mt salary was much less.

This is the position of pretty much every entrepreneur too, unless they come from money. The work and focus may change, but the process is very similar.

In the business world there exists a saying that nobody is irreplaceable. This is a snide remark to keep all employees in line.

And true, even the CEO is replaceable once there is more profit in another.

I have a great respect for all of those that take their lives into their own hands.
Yes, it is never easy, but where there's a will, there's a way!

If everyone moved in this direction the best they could, the world would change in an instant.

If everyone moved in this direction the best they could, the world would change in an instant.

Sadly I feel that parents play a huge role in this. But if you sit with millions without parents then you have a massive problem on your hands.

Educated sluggards are also another problem and this world is filled with problems of our own making my friend. We need new pioneers!

Sadly I feel that parents play a huge role in this.

Parents do and too many outsource parenting to the state. Obviously there are different issues in your neck of the woods.

We need new pioneers!

Absolutely.

Yeah, different issues as you say. HIV/AIDS, drugs, violence, accidents and so many other issues here that leave the children behind as orphans. Before we moved down here, our total of township children that Papillon supported was about 1500.

I hope that within my lifetime, I a get to see at least some change in the disaster that is humanity.

Well I hope with you my friend, but it seems that the days of the biblical Kings has returned.
Atrocities are becoming insane lately and that can only breed more intense evils.

I wonder how many people understand why they work. What is the reason they went to work, why they want to work. As a kid growing up I feel I was pretty fortunate in the variety of people and families I knew. I knew somewhat wealthy people, famous people, middle class people, and poor people. I also knew some of the different reason, thought processes, behind their choices and life styles.

I went to work initially because I wanted to have better toys than I could get by being on welfare. I did not want to be rich nor famous, nor poor. I just wanted what I thought would make me happy.

I did not dislike any of the various groups. The poor had just as much drive as the rich on what their likes and dislikes were. They had the same needs, just at different levels. neither group was happier or sadder than the other. The only group that was slightly different from all the others were the famous ones. They seemed to be the loneliest group of people.

I kept working because I still liked buying toys, then I kept working because I had responsibilities to others. While I worked to primarily buy nice toys, I also learned while I was working, maybe not more about my job, but about how to live when I no longer worked. I learned to garden to grow things, and even though i do not currently have a garden, I know I can grow food. I learned how to make or fix things, because I wanted to buy toys not give someone else my toy buying money.

So now I am retired, during my working life I got to buy a lot of toys, I don't have many of the toys anymore, they were just fleeting things, but I have the memories of the fun I had and the joy those toys I bought, brought me.

It cost nothing to share.

I went to work initially because I wanted to have better toys than I could get by being on welfare. I did not want to be rich nor famous, nor poor. I just wanted what I thought would make me happy.

Better toys, is probably why most go, right?

The only group that was slightly different from all the others were the famous ones. They seemed to be the loneliest group of people.

Living up to the expectations of others is not a fun life, I presume.

I learned how to make or fix things, because I wanted to buy toys not give someone else my toy buying money.

Fix things? You must be ancient! ;)

I don't have many of the toys anymore, they were just fleeting things, but I have the memories of the fun I had and the joy those toys I bought, brought me.

Do you know people who never grow out of their toys? THey seem to live the life of a child wanting more matchbox cars.

I really don't think people know why they go to work any more, it just seems that society says you need to have societies idea of a real job or you are not a part of society. I'm not sure people work to buy and enjoy toys anymore.

I do see and hear a lot of why do you need that, why are you spending money on that, that is a want, you don't really need it. You need to understand the difference between need, want and desire, stop wasting your money. I have been guilty of that before, but some times you need to put want and desire above need in order to fulfill a need, and people do not understand that.

You don't need to buy/invest in crypto, it is a want in order to fulfill a possible future need. The idea that if buying today, you may go hungry, is good for today if you don't buy, but what about in ten years when you may find it difficult to forage free food from nature like a cheery tree, or an apple tree or a birds nest, or any dozens upon dozens of other free food from nature. The point is there are always very good reason to not buy toys, to not buy wants, to not buy desires, and by not buying those a life of work is meaningless.

I'm not sure people work to buy and enjoy toys anymore.

They work to buy, the enjoy part seems to be an unfilled expectation, so they buy bigger and better.

but some times you need to put want and desire above need in order to fulfill a need, and people do not understand that.

Yes, but there has to be balance. For many, it becomes much like an addiction always requiring more to satisfy, but still leaving an unquenchable hole.

You don't need to buy/invest in crypto, it is a want in order to fulfill a possible future need

Yes, but it is toward a collective need also, one that sets in motion the replacement of a system that is ever faster crushing the majority within it.

Yes nothing is free. However not all of us are that bold, to walk away from comfort and the safety of a pay cheque. Not all of us can be crazy, gambling crypto investors, some just want a life of relative stability and comfort which your risk appetite doesn't offer.

In the end though those who did and those who refused to take necessary financial risks will come to the realization that you are right

Most people will never walk away, but nearly everyone can take a small step toward.

Trying to make it on your own rather than sticking only to a 9-5 job is tough. The idea of security is just a mere illusion. Your job can be gone, your business can fail. Even love... Yeah.. Nothing is 100% sure. But what are we doing about it. That can be a proactive or reactive attitude.
I think it works for the best to develop earlier a strategy of gaining financial independence, not sitting 40 years in a job hoping for the mighty government to give you your retirement money.
I can't agree with people's way of buying what they can't own. Very unproductive. Land, gold and other assets are indeed much more valuable. The illusion of safety makes people sit on their lazy side and not plan for an uncertain future. Which... Is very certain that it is and forever was uncertain.

I think it works for the best to develop earlier a strategy of gaining financial independence, not sitting 40 years in a job hoping for the mighty government to give you your retirement money.

I agree. Financial hygiene is something that should be introduced in childhood, but most of us have been "neglected" in this area, yet we are trained consumers.

The illusion of safety makes people sit on their lazy side and not plan for an uncertain future. Which... Is very certain that it is and forever was uncertain.

This is the certainty for sure - everything changes. People get so accustomed to the status quos in their life, that they forget that they are always volatile, ever evolving and can be destroyed in mere seconds, under the right conditions.

If we do the hard things now we can make our life easier later, that's the way I see it. Unfortunately the financial education of a child is being left in the hands of the parents. And most have no clue themselves. That is why we can still hear "get a good job, a house and be like all the rest"

we can still hear "get a good job, a house and be like all the rest"

Be like all the rest means, get the results all the rest have. Most in the world are struggling.

Sounds so communistic, let's all be equal and do the same thing everybody is doing. This is like a chalk scratching my ears

Sounds so communistic

Yes it does - the majority take this path in a world that is engineered to not support that path economically.

Exactly. I am surprised that people are so blind to this

Good luck with your family, that is a lot of responsibility. Not having kids/postponing it has perks and allows more risk taking/adaptability.

I'm mostly against physical consumerism, invest in quality over quantity for everything. This is a growing trend, environmentalism and it will likely hurt economy, people will need to adapt as always. I hope zero waste options become available here sooner than later.

One thing I certainly learned from family is to avoid dept at all costs, and always have some savings ready for all kinds of emergencies. As soon as you're in dept you lose more and more money and there is somehow never end to dept.

Your posts are certainly making me consider more about ownership side of things :) Looking forward to your next post.
Cheers

Not having kids/postponing it has perks and allows more risk taking/adaptability.

I have found the opposite, I am more risk seeking in the process toward security than when I was single. There is more of a reason to do well now and, the responsibility aids the hard work. Might just be me though :D

As soon as you're in dept you lose more and more money and there is somehow never end to dept.

Yep, the house is our debt hole at the moment.

Looking forward to your next post.

It might be about flowers, who knows! ;)

I love flowers and all kinds of plants ^^

Also now that you mention it, yeah kids probably have that effect on people :)
Good luck with the debt, hope it's resolved as soon as possible :D

I thought after the first line you were going to start laying into people, but the ferocity never came and it was more of a gentle reminder :)

Although I wish for many more people to realise the potential here, I do think we have a solid group of accounts who are collecting, and willing to share what they know.

I calmed down :)

Although I wish for many more people to realise the potential here, I do think we have a solid group of accounts who are collecting, and willing to share what they know.

Yeah, I do too. It is just a shame that if this does even half of what it could, many people who shouldn't, will miss out.

In the course of my life I've owned 3 businesses where the employees made more than the owner. Willingly, if not on purpose :)

I don't have much now, but I have enough. That's part of the secret for me. Knowing that I have enough is a huge advantage in life. I don't have to have the latest greatest anything.

The reason I don't have much now is directly related to my willingness to take a swing at something I really enjoy and spend whatever capital I have acquired to do so. That most would call my experiences failures, means nothing to me. I had fun at each of them and am contented with my lot in the wake of that.

So yeah. I take ownership. Good and bad. I really have had a good run!

In the course of my life I've owned 3 businesses where the employees made more than the owner.

This is rare, but can be a great way to build a company.

Knowing that I have enough is a huge advantage in life.

There is the idea that we should be happy with what we've got and I agree - to an extent. I think we have to work toward a point with our effort and then come to the realization, not just start from there, otherwise we never know what we are capable of.

So yeah. I take ownership. Good and bad. I really have had a good run!

Recognizing this is important and I think that at the end of the run, it is better to know what one is capable of rather than have the doubt that there was more in the tank. If life is a game, there is no point conserving energy in the finals.

Oh and love is free in the giving - but there is no guarantee of receiving a return. It is no different to anything we do in this world - but the giving is something we can each control.

The only guarantee I have is a guarantee that any moment can be the last.

Did you miss me :)?

yes, where have you been? :D

I worked. I had to sacrifice the time I devoted to social activity.

Lame ;D

It is always good to take work where one can get it, even more so these days.

That's right. Although, if there is a desire, work will definitely be found. After all, one can always work on yourself :)

That's right. Although, if there is a desire, work will definitely be found. After all, one can always work on yourself :)

When I have been between jobs, I have fallen back on doing IT work. The advantage I have over other technicians is hustle. I'll go out and knock on doors offering my services. Other techs sit around waiting for the phone to ring. I am able to earn money in a shorter amount of time until I land my next job. Often, customers simply aren't motivated to call find a service provider. But, if one shows up at their door, they often have a few items that need fixing while you're there.

Personal finance and hustle should be taught.

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I am able to earn money in a shorter amount of time until I land my next job.

I see this like recovery time - some get back into exercise much faster than others and with training, there is very little lag. I am not sure if there is a steroid for attitude yet though - maybe cocaine? :D

Hunger to win is a motivator as well. If you wait long enough, plain hunger will motivate you.

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I am confident that someone will however, though it might not be through Hive - probably.

As I've mentioned somewhere in my comments last day, Hive will have it's very narrow niche of specific engagement with specific people but i have always doubted it will evolve into something big considered all the rules stay the same. That's why i have been reluctant to invest into Hive heavily and stake it since it is not my investment or anybody else that increases the value of Hive token. It may increase price a bit due to demand, but not the value.

I am confident that the value will increase only after a killer dapp that will leverage protocol and give it real utility for the token. SMT's might also help with it in time.

For now i am just exploring, and not staking my hive i buy with fiat. Full disclosure i am trading some of it semi actively and it gives me pretty decent returns/growth, much more than i would get from curating if staked. I am supporting the community with content, engagement and have brought a decent share of people onto the platform that seem to do pretty well here.

My apologies for being practical and rational. But if we want to go somewhere we must be realistic and fix the issues since the blind faith and preaching will only do so much for mass adoption.