Shortage of Good Curators for Indonesia – Tackling the Problem Head On

in #indonesia7 years ago (edited)

Steemit relies on curators.  It’s a simple process really.  Authors write and curators read, engage and upvote.  If we didn’t have curators Steemit would not work.  But there is a difference between a curator and a great curator.

Steemit is about rewarding authors for awesome content.  A great curator will seek out awesome content and reward that content.  The more awesome the content the higher the reward.  It’s not easy to read post after post and decide what is good and what is not good.  But that is what a great curator does.  What is easy is to vote for friend no matter how good the content.  This is not curation.  This is just voting for friends.  A great curator will move outside his own circle to find the best content.

Steemit has been designed to reward great curators.  For those of you that don’t understand how it works, let me try give you a very basic explanation.  When you see the payment on a post, this payment is to be split 75% 25%. 25% going to curators.  How much of this you get as a curator depends on a few things.  Your Steem Power is one factor, as this grows your curation rewards also grow.  But the timing of the vote is also important.  If you find a post and upvote it before a whale or even someone with more steem power than you, then your reward will be higher.

So a curator comes along and finds some awesome content.  This curator votes on the post and maybe even resteems it.  The curator has a reputation of being a great curator so other people want to know what’s so good about that post.  They read it too, and upvote it and resteem it. But because the curator had an early vote, they have maximised their curator payout.

That’s the very simple explanation. It is a lot more technical than that and includes a timing curve where by the best time to vote is 30 minutes after the post was published.

What I have experienced with the Indonesian community is a shortage of great and awesome content curators.  I have also experienced an expectation gap from those joining Steemit.  Many people seem to think all content should be rewarded. But we will discuss that in a different post, I don’t want to get side tracked.

I also feel it is because of the lack of awesome curators, the Indonesian community are posting in bad English.  They are doing do because they know there are English curators and like everyone are trying to attract that big vote.  

I also know from speaking with @mrday that some people just want to practice writing English.

I believe that the community of Indonesia should post in their own language and feel assured they have people to read their content and votes will come. I also believe, if they have the ability, they should posts bilingual and not just in English.  This is only my opionin and I do not want to be telling people how to post.  But I look at the CN community and see they all post in their language.  I just hope people from Indonesia don’t feel like posting in English is the only way.

So over the next few weeks we are going to grow some awesome Indonesian curators.  At the moment I am preparing something with @abh12345 and I will be making an announcement on our discord server first.

If you think you would make an awesome Indonesian curator (or already are an awesome curator) and want to be involved, hop over to discord and say hi and stay tuned for our upcoming announcement.  here is your invite to join our server  https://discord.gg/8NeRA . When you join, please do get involved and engage with the community in the general chat areas because it is the people that engage with us that we tend to help.


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It's not easy to see the best content, because people who choose content are not robots ..

It’s very easy if you have any a relationship or something like words “tak kenal maka tak sayang”😅 just what in my mind cause before this they are love each other

I agree with your views. I see so many bad posts curated here. Though there is a lot of good content here. I support you.

When choosing a curator to aceh on comments here, then I'll vote in @teukumukhlis, This option regardless of any community and I've seen some incredible content from it, without cornering next to the parties, there is no racist, there is no sara, there is no difference in mind, this purely free choice without rights Alliance, some of the content I read on a very unusual postingannya and deeply build up, the choice is purely my priority, This is one of content I like from him.
Steemit Workshop: educating new users in Lhokseumawe, Aceh

Hopefully others ask her voice against @teukumukhlis and join @steemitbc, or some people here have a decent candidate, please go to the discord and say greetings.
an invitation to join steemitbc and wait for the announcement

I'm not interested in being a curator of a topic or community. I have another task that is more responsible (teaching). I also do not promote myself to be chosen. Thank you!

I just love the way you work, and it's very helpful to other people, If you are not willing to be the curator for help, I hope there are others who have a way of working like you, I am sure you will read the posting for the sake of posting one day to give the award.
If you can help others outside the line of the curator then I am glad to hear it, We wish all the people of Aceh can enjoy the award you are slowly.
#salam hormat saya untuk anda

hahaha. .
saya kadang bingung juga bang, setelah sekian lama, masalah kurasi dan iri vote juga masih terus menjadi masalah.
setelah hampir beberapa bulan, ternyata perkembangannya masih sama.
dan saya rasa jugq yang memeberikan info juga tidak begitu akurat.
bakalan jadi panjang lagi ini.. . .
hahah

MARI DISIMAK SECARA SEKSAMA !!!

Lantas, apakah konten seperti ini yang disebut berkualitas ???

Mohon Arahan dan Bimbingannya Anda Nenek @paulag, @safwaninisam, @said-nuruzzaman, @samakito, @binjeeclick dan Para Penyetubuh Motivator Tangguh Tersebut.

Untuk Referensinya Anda Bisa Menuju Link https://steemit.com/steem/@abunagaya/memahami-tentang-steemit-lebih-dalam-dan-tiga-mata-uang-didalam-steemit

Jangan Sampai Lupa Bahagia !!!

Ramé panglema tibang sang disinoë.... Na yang galak ke qurrator na yang iri ke goeb yang ka berhasil... Macam keuh na... Saya lebih suka pendapat bang @rismanrachman bagus nya posting ini di hapus saja untuk menimalisir konflik horizontal yang berimbas pada perkembangan steemit di Indonesia...

Waaaaaaaah rupanya na persetubuhan dengon sitim kloner jameun abu nyan. That geupap, brat ipoh hahaaaha

LOL... Please accept my standing ovation for your great post. Lets jump into the topic that we are discussing, the shortage bla bla...seem you know much about Indonesia curators and it soon makes me curious why you currently so concern about Indonesia users. You are so allergic to the language that we use, according to you, is bad. FYI, we dont push Indonesia users to use English, but how can I say no when they are trying to show their ideas with English even the google is the last solution to make their post readable and again, is it wrong using the tool? I know you get confused when reading English from Indonesia post that you said, that is not good content. WTF do you know about great content? Any standard? If any, pass it to me. What is the great content standard on steemit? Do you wanna be a heroine for some of the dumbhead Indonesia users? I guess your popularity is not really working so you need the backup from whom they adore you like their mom. I have to remind you, check the accurate info before you speak, and kindly find who they are, what they are doing for the community? I am afraid you just heard from one side, then you make a post to attract them. Good job @paulag. Be good steemit police!

Well! I am so irritated when you say many of Indonesia contents are rubbish, then it makes me think again and come up with a simple question, do you think your content is great, @paulag? Then you carelessly judge the others content aren't. Do you realize that your post is not using the pics source, tell me, is it categorized as great content?

Why are you shouting at me? bold enlarged text is aggressive and there is no need. I am offended just by the formatting.

You have made allegations about me yet judge me for doing the same - shame on you. I am not 'allergic' as you put it to anything.

I do not make decisions for others, people can like what content they want. What you like and what I like are very different, just like the type of person you are is very different to the person I am. You do not have to be involved in the program I am setting up and I am free to delegate to whom I wish.

I will be engaging with those that wish to engage with me, if my curator program adds value to them and the wider community then I am happy. And by the way, this program I am talking about has been running successfully within other communities on steemit, and i am free to do the same.

You underestimated our english.. haha.. maybe you don't dig deep enough. There are alot of master in english here in Indonesia..and english is world language and everbody can use it.. if we are write in bahasa, that will make indonesian post cannot be access by world easily. But ya.. we admit it there are bad english posts, I see that as the procces of learning well english

Intinya, Steemit koen warisan yah atau ma teuh dirumoh. Kasep pungo nyan, bek lee meutamah, apalagi didukung lee si inong @paulag nyan. #keureulieng

i am very touched with your efforts for indonesia. we desperately want a change from this. I am very grateful to you mom @paulag.

Ha ha ha ha, Have you go to Indonesian Community meetup for this time to make some captured and show to your mom? GOOD BOY

Yes, it is true. but all look different after a while I search.

hahahaha, that's so funny bro @dilimunanzar

Kana ma dih yang barô ma droë dih aleh hana di tueng le...

Saya mendukung lahirnya curator conten untuk Indonesia .. #bek #panik #semoga #makin #bahagia #steemian #seureudeng

Saya mendukung ide @paulag ... dan saya menilai curator conten adalah kebutuhan saat ini

#curator #conten #curator #bek #panik

Saudara curator @levycore, nama anda telah disebut di mana-mana, dalam dunia steemit gaung nama anda telah dipuja di mana-mana. Banyak postingan memuji anda, mencoba meniru langkah dan gaya anda untuk mengaplikasikan giat giat menuju sukses di steemit. Puja puji di sana sini tentunya suatu penghargaan tersendiri

Namun, saya tidak mengerti, dalam postingan yang menimbulkan pergesekan dan permusuhan, malah anda memberikan kurasi nilai, anda upvote postingan tersebut.

Tentunya hal tersebut adalah tanda tanya besar, atas ketidak pahaman saya tentang bagaimana pola pikir anda.

Karena, katanya di steemit tidak boleh menghina dan menimbulkan permusuhan, tidak boleh plagiat, konten yang bagus, sangat orisinil, harus kreatif, membangun pertemanan.

Namun, anda @levycore yang katanya sebagai curator Indonesia, kenapa melakukan upvote atau memberikan kurasi pada postingan yang menabur kebencian, menghina?

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Do you wanna be a heroine for some of the dumbhead Indonesia users?..
soe nyang neu maksud bangai nyaan???
pue mentang2 kah awak rayek nyang hna saboh ide ngon kah bangai mandum???..
adak kah pih mnyoe hna soe dukung pue jeut keuh lagee jinoe???. krn na awak bangai nyan keuh kah jeut lagee jinoe..
Bek gara2 peng yg hna seberapa nyan ka peugah bangsa droe keuh bangai bak bangsa laen!!!.. ilong hna kumita raseki hinoe cma keu piasan mntoeng geulantoe ku meu pehbuuk, tapi ban kubaca pesan kah rapat igoe kuh..
neu jak beut bak tengku sigoe-goe.. neu tanyoeng kiban cara ta silaturrahim sabe bangsa teuh ato ngon bangsa gob!!!.
Kah caroeng @levycore, tapi intelektualitas kah boh itieeek!!!!.
I'm sory @paulag, just share to some people or "Aneuk Aceh"..

Many LOL for @levycore but If you have the courage today, then you won't be barking here, But you will be a good example to be more right, @paulag is the one who tells the truth and never invite you to feel guilty here, Never seek animosity because I also had to make the translation more posts mom @paulag, It's not about praising a woman, This is pure unadulterated truth, and we have become curators of the bad in me, How many people who complain a lot after some time they mention your name in the posting but neglected.
Just go to help people who become your friends and your brother when you continue to be the wrong person, If you tend to improve the way you work and the quality of the posts, then you'll be great.

#Become a great man @levycore, don't be so racist by the way you speak.

I am @elnazry, we are good.

Saya rasa Curator yang hebat adalah Curator yang dapat memahami Standaritas Conten. saya sebagai pemula di steemit juga tau sedikit tentang standaritas konten, hanya saja saya tidak menyanggupi kriteria tersebut.

Salah-satu standar konten yang bagus :

  • Konten Yang Bermanfaat,
  • Konten Harus Original,
  • Konten Yang Mudah Dicerna,
  • Konten Yang Berkarakter,
  • Konten Dengan Topik Yang Jelas,
  • Konten Dengan Panjang Artikel "Misal nya 500 Kata" Dengan dibagi Beberapa Paragraf Yang Pantas,
  • Dll.
    Semoga bermanfaat bagi anda @levycore sebagai curator.

Saya rasa anda tidak pantas menyebut diri anda sebagai Kurator Indonesia bila Standar Konten saja anda tidak memahami nya. Seperti yang sudah anda tanyakan ( WTF, apakah Anda tahu tentang konten hebat? Ada standar? Jika ada, berikan padaku. Apa standar konten hebat di steemit? ).

Pertanyaan anda itu mencerminkan kebodohan anda sendiri sebagai kurator. Terima Kasih
Salam Steemian Aceh

Hana adab sagai jak hah WTF bak postingan @paulag, bek ato ato awak Indonesia-Aceh, ka vote soe yang galak ka vote, ka atoe soe yang jeut ka ato dalam Indonesia-Jakarta manteng, yang na manfaat keukah manteng ka komen, yang merugikan kah hana payah peu seumak komentar gop,

https://steemit.com/spiderblogger/@waphilip/hey-minnows-stop-spamming-in-the-comments-try-this-tip-instead

WTF

Anda benar. Dang seratus dut 50

Andai geutanyoe na adab .. maka Hana Ta kheun njan ..

Beutoi bang, semoga semakin beradap dan menjadi contoh baik kepada pemula yang lain.

Njan ban model dan kadar ilme .. jadi ta maklum .. pokok nya ya dukung lahirnya #curator #conten .. #bek #panik

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Ini contoh content yang didukung kurator steemit Indonesia... Konten nya menghina orang lain malah dapat upvote...luar biasa

COME To Mama Baby

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Ini bagaimana @levycore? Bisa dijelaskan?

Tiba - tiba @levycore hilang ingatan dengan dalih accountnya di bajak (ijak u blang)

Terkadang saya bingung dengan perdebatan yang terjadi, siapa benar siapa salah.

Saya terkejut membaca postingan ini, terlepas dari isi perdebatan yang ada, yang menjadi pertanyaan saya kenapa salah satu kurator Indonesia yang namanya sering saya dengar dan digadang-gadangkan disteemit ini mengeluarkan kata-kata yang kurang pantas?

Saya lihat beberapa postingan rekan-rekan saya disteemit, betapa bahagianya mereka jika dapat bertemu dan mengikuti Meet Up yang pematerinya adalah anda, saya memang belum pernah mengikuti Meet Up dengan anda.

Selama ini saya berfikir anda tidak akan mengajak orang lain mendukung postingan yang memiliki unsur kebencian kepada orang lain, apalagi memberikan contoh kata-kata yang tidak pantas dengan membawa nama besar INDONESIA.

Apa saya yang salah berfikir selama ini?

Saat kenyataan tak seindah harapan jangan lupa minum air putih, bro!! ah

Thanks..

Plagiarism is so bad in literary.... @levycore you're Bravo..... I am not so good language English with true grammar, writing etc but our want to try with other experience to socialize with foreign else Indonesia.... What it's wrong with us....!

hai @paulag, bek tanyong pakon Kamo pakek bahasa inggreh, karna Kamo tengoh meruno bah jeut bahasa lagenyan. Ipegah nyan bhsa donya, Kamo hawa sit bek ipegah tinggai berita. halo bang @abunagaya, bek bengeh keu komunitas steemit Indonesia, nyan syara tanyo cit, kadang adoe tanyo roh Kenan lam grup nyan. hi bang @levycore, semoga kejadian lagenyo bejet nepedame, bek le karu bek le rioh. Hai kemandum steemian yang ka megabong, tanyo bek dawa, ksi ngen nsc tetap sodara, steemit nyo ata gop peget, tanyo cuma tak Mita peng Ino, dan na ladom yg betoi ipeget karya. Jadi kepu tamedawa hanya karna dawi dawa, ci peget acara Duk nesapat mandum tapeputoh beget pegah haba bepah, undang ibuk paulag bang abunagaya ngen b ang levycore. Hahaha bahasa Aceh kalinyo.

komentar terbaik
mohon di pertimbangkan bg @levycore dan bg @abunagaya
dari lon tuan yang ingin steemit indonesia menyatu dan bergotong royong..

I see people who want to post in English, more to get attention from outside, while the content in the language itself there is no gap at this time to get upvote, so far in Indonesia, good content not necessarily get high voice, thus causing them prefers writing in bad English, and that includes me.

so lets make steemit a better place that works for everyone and over come this problem together :-)

I agree, like throwing garbage in its place, make steemit a better place, I hope it can solve this problem. and I am ready to help for prosperity.

Agreed

Abang @riodejaksiuroe, raneuh ho ret KSI pue NSC? hahahahaahah....Hai nyoe lon kumayang beh bek flag-flag atawa beungeh beungeh...yu ya yu

Perkenalkan saya Rio. Dewan penasehat KSI Pidie. Man lon mazhab hana mita karu. Peu meupake sabe2 Aceh. Nek geutanyoe maksimal meuprang ngon kaphe.. minimal ngon jawa. Jadi tanyoe bek lah karu sabe syehdara..

Ngeri li abang @riodejaksiuroe. hahahahaha!!! Ham to the booo

That's very true @abunagaya, I prefer posting in English, although that is not very good, than I made a post in Indonesian, but no one saw my post.

can I ask you, do you prefer posting in English because it has the potential to be seen by more? or are there other reasons?

I made a post with the English language because I prefer and maybe a lot of people who see my pot,
And most of all I also want to learn a word of two English words, with which I will also be able to bit by bit the meaning of words in English.
I always make post in indonesian language, but my post also does not mean anything and then I try in english, although I only use google translation, my posting there is little change than I make in indonesian language.
so from that I took the decision to make a post in english.
Actually I also really like to use my own local language.

I agree with your statement @abunagaya, I fully support what you say, and thank you for your care and we need support here from outside our country, even though we do not have the right English @paulag

the right english is not the big problem, the problem is when people feel they have no choice but to post in english and i do not want that to be the case

yes. I understand and agree, we do not know the direction to get support, mostly in Aceh, English is one of the solutions @paulag

Hello @paulag how are you? Before, I would like to ask, what contribution have you given to us in indonesia? If you have a big share or investment for Indonesia, maybe I will agree with you. For me, anyone can argue, just do not overdo it. Indonesia is vast, not like a coconut shell that can be controlled by the curator. Simply put, is there a law that governs a curator, should to whom he gives his curation? If anything, show it to me !! Because, which I know, the person who gave the delegation itself to the Indonesian curator, never demanded what kind of content should be given voice !! And more ironic again, you say steemian Indonesia should write in Indonesian, my question is, whether during this steemian Indonesia not write in its language? Supposedly, if you are really concerned about steemian Indonesia, you find out in detail from every point of view, not just hear from certain people or groups, who just want to undermine their own country !! I hope you review the problems that are happening in Indonesia, not just accept opinions from one party only. If not, you better take care of the steemian in your country, Thank's !!

Don't forget to eat ice cream, let this head cold !!

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another shouter

Lol @paulag
Where is my Popcorn?

Seeing them is Crazy! You probably will need to understand their Cultures.
Don't give them too much, esp to individual

probably do need to pay more attention to their culture, but I think I it was just wrong timing and I got caught up in a row between communities

Indonesian do have sect .
Give one not to the other you will have problems.

This is all because of the wrong start, then there are many groups in using Steemit account in Indonesia, this mistake is the beginning of the Indonesian curator set that supports only in writing the Indonesian language. this is what makes the situation so unstable, for the person who wrote the English language is not included in the list of curator support Indonesia.
maybe that the commander @bullionstackers already knows more about Steemit users in Indonesia.

There are many Indonesian users within #whalepower Platform.
I am the only curator in #whalepower that understand Indonesian / Bahasa .
I have spoken before in my earlier posts when I agree to Support the Indonesian.
Only when the authors abide by the Rules!
The #whalepower Guidelines have been set.
or get Kicked Ass. Many have tried! and as times goes by, I am very serious when one's break the Rules.

Ihhhh ngeri li abang @ezadolphin ni...hambooo

Anda tahu wilah indonesia sangat luas...??

Hi @paulag...

Thank you for you attention to steemian at indonesia. I as one of the Indonesian steemian totally agree with this post. There are many interesting and useful content that does not get the reward. This condition has killed the spirit of steemian of indonesia to continue to learn and create interesting content.

this is why I want to try and grow some awesome Indonesian curators . Thank you for your comment

Resteems are far more important than rewards if you're taking the long view. If you just want to get rich quick then sure rewards are important but if you want to build a Following community then resteems gets your post under more eyeballs than any upvote ever would.

#TwoPenneth

I find that when I resteem a post it doesn't always gain more attention, but it costs me nothing to do so and it may help. I see a lot of interesting posts via what others share. We really need the community feature to build something around specific interests

If just one extra individual reads a post via a resteem who would not have read it if you had not resteemed it then that's a success in my book. #PeteTheSalesman :-D

I can not wait for community features :-)

Personally, I don't like the hashtag method of building a following/interest/community, it's very poor in terms of cataloguing. It would be far better to have categories that you had to select by default when posting, then you could have targeted RSS feeds for those categories which in turn would lead to some clever person out there writing a reader app along the lines of TootSuite that would not only let you read and be notified of Steemit posts but all your other social media accounts. Even searching hashtags for "How to lick a hedgehog's back safely" will not pull in all the relevant posts.

P.S. That is a joke of course, I actually search for "How to date an aardvark legally" ;-)

I still remember when @paulag made a post about Steemit can alleviate poverty in Indonesia. However, what action to account for the post?

All who commented, said Indonesia needs a content curator. if it is necessary, well, do it!

Why cornering the Indonesian Steemit Community? I think @paulag just dare to make a post only. How many times have you ever given a vote to Steemian Indonesia? when you got SP delegate from @stellabelle.

And one more, Where now discord group Indonesian Helper? It is only active when you need it?

why don't you pull my data and see??????

Lol you do not have to take part in the curator program, and when I help grow awesome curators and they vote on your post, will you say no thank you then ? :-)

ok. When you grow an awesome curators? I dare you to make a post

I accept your challange, and remember we are all batting for the same team. we all want steemit to be successful. I do not understand why you are so hostile

You showtime in the wrong country beiby

all those who have entered the platform Steemit should equally maintain this platform, especially we ourselves should be able to keep our platforms better and can create good content according to our ability to have good support from curators or witnesses' attention on us in the platform this. I think that for the good of this Steemit platform it is our responsibility to look at each other and fix the bad to be good from all posts from each country that join, I can see your good purpose @paulag, one side to keep the Steemit platform for the better fore and will help the crowd. I am very interested in your goal in advancing this platform, please continue in the intentions of your good intentions @paulag and hopefully, we will all with succeeding better in the future.

Hello!! What drama here ?

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Saya telah mempelajari dan membuat terjemahan untuk postingan ibu @paulag, dan postingan dalam bahasa Indonesia ini sudah saya minta beberapa kawan yang pandai berbahasa inggris untuk memeriksanya sebelum saya posting. Semoga ini bisa membantu mengurangi pertikaian atau unsur menyudutkan yang lain seperti terlihat pada komentar komentar yang sudah ada, periksalah tulisan saya pada judul berikut, semoga ini membantu bagi yang masih samar samar dan berpikir jelek kepada ibu @paulag. Terimakasih kepada semuanya.

Krisis kurator yang baik untuk Indonesia Mengatasi kemajuan pemula

I really agree with @paulag. indonesia lack of content curator, because the amount of steemian in indonesia increasing from day to day. The current curator of course means the curator who has the power is still very limited, can not provide sufficient and balanced curation for the steemians in Indonesia. Thanks @paulag, hopefully you can provide a good solution to this problem

oh .... do not argue a lot. it is not important to just lift me curator. let me upvote all the citizens of Indonesia with my strength which is $ 00.00 heheh. who agreed to point hand.

Thank you my friend
Lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂

this is @paulag smart comment, i think this person should be the curator for Indonesia, if you want, choose me also to be the indonesian curator😀😀🍻🍻🇮🇩🇮🇩

Nice post. I hope you will know what our reason to learning by doing. I know. My english ist good. My friends to.

In some discord, i see you in same discord. I want reply in bahasa. I hope you want read it with google translete.

  1. Postingan

Steemit menyediakan kebebasan kepada steemian dalam berekspresi dan postingan. Apakah itu foto, video, cerita, opini, game, atau tulisan ilmiah.

  1. Alat ukur

Untuk mengukur sesuatu itu bagus atau tidak. Maka ada alat ukurnya. Misalnya, bagaimana mengatakan foto itu bagus? Video bagus? Atau opini itu bagus? Puisi itu bagus?

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Saya tidak memiliki contoh. Tapi, khusus opini, ada ukurannya. Misalnya, saya mengirim tulisan opini ke Koran Kompas. Maka, pihak redaksi akan menjawab email saya dengan standar opini yang bisa diterbitkan di dalam kolom opini kompas.

Ada perbedaan pemahaman tentang alat ukur atau cara mengukur suatu post itu bagus. Begitu juga dengan artikel, essay dan lainnya. Saya pikir, kita harus memastikan bahwa sebuah ukuran penialain harus umum dan bisa memastikan perbaikan.

Whe i wrote it. I know, we must and must (in bahasa "wajib") learn english. But, how my friend can write in english when our live in village.

I hope, you make a international meetup to make something what it can be a rule about all of content in steemit.

I hope GOD bless us when we learn everyday.

very nice and kereng i like
Upvote aku juga ya dan follow
@anif123 dn @saffana

I do not have more steempower power, so please let mothers understand with my vote, mom @paulag

you can grow your steem power by curating as well as writing. you just need to learn how and that is what we hope to provide over the next while

Yes brother. I strongly agree. This post is pretty good for adding information. My post was pretty good. Will you please upvote back my post.?

lets start by teaching you that you should never ask for a vote in a comment. It will get you a bad reputation. thanks for reading my post

We are just trying to get the attention of the world community when the attention of our community is very small.

Thx madam :)

very true!! @paulag, But there is a lot of content from Aceh users writing interesting content and with good English. but our curators there do not understand English well. This is an ongoing problem for upvote.

so this problem works both ways. Okay. I will keep that in mind, thank you for telling me

I have noticed that you've been campaigning for support for the indonesian community. Thanks for all the you do for our neighbors. BTW, I wanted to check what goes on in your discord server, but the link seems expired.

@steemitph there is a new link, hope it helps https://discord.gg/z3m8z

this link has been expired too @abunagaya.. May I get a new link?

thank you for telling me about the link https://discord.gg/EVj65
I have also updated the post

I really agree with this post. I see a curator preferring what content he likes even though the content is not as good. But it is a pity when someone who writes with good content but does not get attention.
Why steemians in Indonesia choose to create content in English. One factor is the lack of attention from the curator. Especially if a curator has a relationship with the creator, it will definitely get a vote.
Steemian in Indonesia is more using google translate as a medium to create content in english, I also belong to that part.

thank you for your honest answer. we all need to work together to solve these problems on steemit and hope that the plans I want to put in place will go one step in the right direction for everyone

Thank you for your response. Why do I say so? Because I can not help my friends after I invite them to join in steemit. Therefore the support of the curators is helpful for them to flourish. In fact I am now trying to increase my steam power with what I have in order for the future I can them.

I really agree with this post. I see a curator preferring what content he likes even though the content is not as good.

Lets give me an example buddy?

people from NSC not getting the attention of the curator? is NSC not from Indonesia? then who is the curator of Indonesia? can you consult me where the problem is? even seniors who have long been in steemit no attention from the curator?

NSC leader plagiat, Have you put Indonesian tag in your post? So lets we see the proof! Do not talking bulshit here, I know whose you are!

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Tidak ada kepastian untuk berbicara di sini, saya harap kita dapat berbicara di dunia nyata untuk membahas ini. dan aku tahu siapa kamu, kawan yang sama yang bertempur di steemit ini., i wait you..

Jadi bek peugah haba bangai abu.. We built our community, you built your community, So bek pugah lemoe gob Ciret sabe, leumo droe Busong chiet! I am Indonesian Community, I built My community dude, So lets do it..

inilah yang saya khawatirkan, ketika kita beda pendapat menjadi permusuhan disini, saya tau anda orang yang idealis terhadap bangsa Aceh, tapi dalam hal steemit, anda tidak tau permasalahan antara NSC dan KSI yang sebenarnya, karena anda tidak melihat dan mendengar apa keputusan malam itu, jika anda seorang idealis, mungkin anda akan teukejoet mendengar pernyataan malam itu, jadi mari kita luruskan di meja kopi, bukan disini sobat. antara aku dan kamu.. hhehehehehe

and our communities should help each other not fight :-)

Hay gam kah awak pane,
Ka tanda muka loen miseu na darah ta meurumpok dua teuh ta peugah haba, bek lage nya tuto kah, biasa mantong,....
Miseu awak kah dan komunitas kah sportif hana mungken awak kah ka hina gop melalui chapter chapter kah nyan

Steemian Indonesia needs comprehensive empowerment, from the procedure of making posts to fake accounts. Many post-random make the image steemian Indonesia decline, coupled with the use of google translate to make the post more chaotic.

I see no comprehensive empowerment here, but there is a small community that has done that, they have ideas and concepts and have started to empower, but unfortunately this small community is not supported in Indonesia.

I see steemit as a new source of income and not dependent on government policy. Therefore I invite some young people to join on this platform. But with the limitations of science and the difficulty of self-development make results not as expected. Therefore I say need sustained guidance and tricks for the survival of new steemians to stay in this steemit.

survival means there has to be people to distribute rewards. And these are called curators.

The curator is visiting my blog. I am also looking for ways to advance the small community that I happen to be the leader.

steemit is a fantastic place to empower ideas and concepts and there are communities that do support indonesia

You are right mom, but it takes learning and strong determination to survive and succeed on this platform. Steemit is not a social media, steemit is a place of struggle, here we can plan for the future and create jobs.

Greetings know from me in indonesia let's interweave the rope fraternity in steemiit

Greetings know from me in indonesia let's interweave the rope fraternity in steemiit

It's also possible that the reason why some insist on posting in English is because they want to interact with people from outside their community. Whether the goal for that interaction is to get bigger rewards for their content or something as simple as truly wanting to engage people from a different culture, I can't tell.

Just to be clear, I'm not Indonesian and I'm not part of the community (in case you're wondering). But, in my case, it is easier to write in English than it is my local language because while I get practice writing in English almost everywhere--memos from work, emails I send clients, etc.--I have almost no opportunity to write in my local language. Believe it or not, my local language is not the default language of business and government. Although it is in writing, its not the case in practice, which is sad.

my local language is Irish, which no one speaks and is also not the default language of business and government so I do understand when there is no audience there is no point.

If people want to truly engage with those of a different culture, then this is awesome and I really do encourage it, but for those that do not, and are posting in english because they feel they have to, well i would like to try and address that some how. Steemit is what we make of it, lets make it a fantastic place for everyone

You've got a point there. It would be nice to see different communities in steemit dedicated to helping build and encourage blogs in local languages, just like there are communities dedicated to helping newbies grow in the platform. I guess it boils down, like you said, to local curators. After all, we have curators showcasing general quality posts, posts about food, etc., why not curators to showcase and reward local content. Well, you just inspired me to be on the lookout for local content in my language too.

awesome - thank you so much. you are so right, we have curators for fiction on steemit, we have curator for gaming on steemit, what is the problem with local curators too?

I say give the community what they want. And judging by the amount of activity this post has received in the last day, it looks like what they want is a local curation league. Good luck in getting your league up and running.

I agree with dual languages. I have seen that in China, Korea and Japan country bloggers who are doing that in Steemit. This helps to gain more visibility in both local and International languages too.

it also helps when people are doing word counts for curation :-)
some people do look at the data to try and find awesome posts and one of the factors here would be word count.

Curating is really only valuable if you're also lucky enough to hold some SP. It would take an awfully long time to earn some decent rewards and SP on curating alone.

But, curating has other benefits as well. It encourages others to follow you which has many benefits to it as well.

Excellent post @paulag

Dual language is the solution for those who poor english.

For the curator project, if I may.. I suggest @paulag yo set criterions to be an indonesian curator. For instance, excellent in both Indonesian language and english, have high reputation or SP, be a member of SC, ect. I think @paulag and @abh12345 know better exactly what to do than my suggestions.

all suggestions are welcome, thank you @alzamna

Terina kasih @paulag atas perhatian anda untuk steemians indonesia saya rasa anda sudah sangat mengerti permasalahan steemians indonesia saat ini

Thats good @paulag you have do so many @experience with Indonesian Community, and you feel free to make your opinion buddy, but you considare it by Just one people opinion, @mrday? Whose @mrday? Lets discuss with Indonesian Community, we have the Largest community in Southeast Asia, you have so many Steemians here for discuss, we have Ocd curator, steem Ambassador, also Games Curator, Indonesian Curator, which one you need? And lets see how we do curation in post, hello this is Indonesian, The Largest steemit user in Southeast Asia, So lets do discuss with us, What data you need? :D

we need all sorts of curators for all sorts of content @dilimunanzar

Without you we do this all this time for our community, no body could make a post with good criteria in steemit without study hard to understand the rule in steemit platform, I am a street vendor, I do not know how writing in good content, I try to learn with another, so do I gift My experiences to another, That we are unity in our community @paulag, not all content have the reward here, So do I, So what the proof?

you are correct, not all content has rewards. and i am sure you do do this for your community. The problem is there is no weigh behind the votes and when I launch this curation program I hope that we can slowly change this.

Just do it, but does not considare your program to solve that Indonesian curation problem, and you like be a heroine here, without you we do our curation project, Ocd, game, steem Ambassador, Indonesian Curator, So what you have to do to curated Indonesian content? I don't talking about drama here, This the true, So what the proof?! Looking for some support to be witness with Indonesian Community? Do it by good way, doesn't need more drama here..

Currently, in Indonesia there is no curator, only the curator of the Indonesian steemit community, while outside the community, the curator gives no value whatsoever, and this is the KSI curator himself said in front of me. So in this case, what is requested is the great curatorial content in Indonesia, within the scope as (the Indonesian state curator) not within the community itself, maybe this is no longer a steam room outside KSI. Is not the difference really beautiful? Then why can not we unite?

Indonesian Community curator that curation for Tag Indonesian, thats te true Man.. Just talking the true here, does not bring here.. bring there.. I My self so do My curation to Recommended promo-steem post in Indonesian, I gift My curation to your Community, caused his post original and do the promo-steem, I dont think so with dramatics here, we are a Man doesnt need more drama!

Peuka jiprak tgk @dilimunanzar, pat dasar nemeruno steemit...bak kurator KSI atau pat laen...cie neumejujur siat

Kira kira Agam bek kasok Rok!
BEK LAWOK BOS!

"Then why can not we unite?"

My sentiment about a lot of all of this. Well said

Why? Because people do not want to do. some prefer to build bargaining power with conflict and refuse to unite. The goal? obviously it is to get a delegate. and I'm sure they'll get it soon. i am really disgusted with playing victim people!

sorry for my english and hope you catch the point.

Saya bangga dengan ibu @paulag yang memerhatikan steemiat indonesia dari pada kurator indonesia itu sendiri, dan kami sangat menghormati anda, lanjutkan gagasan anda ibu @paulag....!!

terima kasih banyak, sepertinya banyak yang tidak suka posting ini atau komunitas yang sedang saya bangun

Betapa banyak konten bagus yang ditulis oleh ahlinya tetapi tidak mendapatkan nilai dari kurator di Indonesia, sehingga penulis lebih cenderung menulis dalam bahasa Inggris walau hanya hasil trranslete untuk mendapat perhatian dari orang luar. Saya merasa di sini tidak adil, kalau hanya mementingkan orang-orang terdekat saja yang mempunyai relasi khusus.

ada banyak konten bagus yang tidak diperhatikan. Itulah mengapa kita membutuhkan lebih banyak kurator dan mendorong kurasi

Totally aggree ✌🏻@paulag

that is true Ms @paulag, banyak orang orang di Indonesia yang memiliki potensi menghadirkan konten konten berkualitas, konten yang informatif, attractive, entertaining.
Namun yang terjadi adalah konten yang dibuat dan mungkin sudah melalui observasi tidak banyak dihargai.
Akhirnya yang terjadi adalah keputus asaan.

Seperti saya sendiri akhirnya memutuskan memakai bahasa inggris dengan segala keterbatasannya dengan harapan memperoleh reward lebih besar.
Karena dalam pikiran saya, tak ada beda antara konten yang dibuat secara serius dengan menggunakan BAHASA dengan konten biasa menggunakan Eng.

Karena Tidak bisa dipungkiri, salah satu kenapa banyak yang meminati Steemit adalah potensi penghasilan yang bisa diperoleh.

Namun Perlu juga Ms @paulag ketahui Indonesia itu luas, memang pengguna Steemit terbanyak di Pulau Sumatera terutama di Propinsi Aceh di bandingkan Propinsi lainnya. Namun semakin hari penggunanya sudah mulai menyebar ke daerah lain, termasuk Kalimantan.

Kesenjangan yang terjadi adalah kurator masih terpusat pada wilayah tertentu saja, sehingga dengan melihat latar belakang perbedaan suku, wilayah, budaya, bahasa lokal, kecenderungan like dislike besar.

Yang dilihat bukan kualitas konten, tapi lebih pada faktor like dislike.

Warm Regards
@azmielbanjary

Terimakasih ibu @paulag atas perhatian anda kepada kita Indonesia khususnya yang berdomisil Aceh. Memang benar seperti anda uaraikan di atas. Yang bahwa umumnya orang indonesia kebanyakan menggunakan bahasa inggris yang kurang tepat. Dan itu sangat tidak benar, walaupun saya sendiri pernah melakukannya, dengan bantuan #Google Translite.

Semoga kedepannya kita tetap lebih fokus dengan bahasa sendiri, karena di indonesia juga akan ada kurator yang lebih hebat nantinya.

Sekali lagi, terimakasih banyak bunda @paulag atas perhatiannya kepada kita.

Salam 🙏

terima kasih atas komentar Anda, semoga kami dapat menciptakan sesuatu yang akan membantu (menggunakan google translate)

jadi bersikap profesional itu penting.saya selaku mengajak kepada kawan2 yang mengunakan steemit untuk mencari hal baru.jangan menunggu yang membuat anda malas saya .melihat banyak yang mendapatkan project baru dari luar.maka jangan menyalahkan antara satu sama lain.jikalau ada kekurangan

what a great attention you have for us (indonesian) @paulag what i want to say is anything you do with your help hopefully will be a good solution for us.I mean ksi and nsc it's yes most indonesian write in english to get attention from abroad currator even with poor english, me too. the lack of confidence is another problem for indonesian i think.

I would agree, lack of confidence can be problem too so we need to also encourage as well as help

Udah pada ngopi belum??

Spammer 😅

My connecting very bad hahaha

I hope we can grow competitive curators :-)

I hope too, thank you @paulag for your concern for steemians Indonesia, it is very very help us, but please don't judge we like this.

Ketika saya membaca postingan bu @paulag .. saya sangat sepakat ... indonesia butuh curator conten .. sekali lagi .. curator conten .. paham ya ..

Bagi saya dengan semakin berkembangnnya steemit, maka semakin banyak lahir conten yang bagus .. maka usulan bu @paulag sangat sesuai dengan situasi steemit di indonesia .. #indonesia #butuh #curator #conten

#bekpanik

it's not just the curators we really need right now but someone who can manage conflict in every dispute is also very much needed, a wise leader in clarifying any differences that arise, it seems to be more beautiful as a good solution. hi @dilimunanzar, i am @mrday, aneuk seureudeng who is learning to write in english, when asked by mrs @paulag "why do indonesians often write in english" and l answered because personally l see many big account owners are people overseas, I tried to get lucky with this because in my homeland I do not know people who have big wallets, and the second one because I like English language ever it is english is world language so can while learning to write. that's me @mrday, thank to you for mention me up there, wish you all the best

thank you very much for your support @mrday

It's funny how some people find themselves attacked by this post, and some find this post as good and useful post. This, to me is absolute proof that this post is indeed a necessary post. How people understands it depends on some aspects.

Thanks, @paulag. Can I join the Discord channel?

I dont know why my link is not working, please try this one https://discord.gg/TyCa7

thank you for your support, I did not intend on offending anyone, but I do have a good project up my sleeve to help curators and i will be moving forward

Best of luck on your project.

This ain't good.
Both invite links returned same message.

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you are right this is not good. I have just tested this link and it works for me (oh please dont let it cause another error)

https://discord.gg/8NeRA

if you really want to help the people of Indonesia, then you have to choose the right person to become a curator. because very many communities have been established in Indonesia, so if one chooses then they will use power only to choose their own members. thank you very much for your attention to us.

this is a concern, and is hard to address

Yes i agree with you, that is the nature of a human being

so much i see the equation of steemit world in korea and indonesia. stirring promo steemit in korea also looks not much different from that done by indonesian people. but 1 different thing, very bad judgment happened in indonesia. the average Korean person writes in their language and they will admonish if others write in their language. it indicates they do not want their bad language image. and they always get the same award. this is really worth being envied by us in indonesia.kami write content in our language but we have to force outsiders to give value to us. This is very sad.

I just saw the @paulag post, I really support what you say, I wonder why there is someone who brought my name in his comment but I do not know the contents of your post, because I'm not healthy, so I do not have taste for writing. As soon as I see watshapp in the NSC group, I feel the need to comment on @Paulag post.

I did make a plagiarism post, and that's a photo on the steepshot I took in the WA Group, but not because I did not have the ability to write, but because as good as anything I write, nobody will help, because I am the NSC community chairman. Now I want to ask @paulag, is it my fault to set up a community to help budding steemit? If it is wrong then I am ready to listen to your suggestion @paulag, please give the answer.

Thank you for giving new hope to all of Indonesia Steemian, hopefully they can continue to succeed in steemit. Hopefully the future of good content gets the appropriate upvote value, continue its mission @paulag, I always support what you have planned.

wow.... Indonesia bisa
sepertinya @paulag mencintai Indonesia
sampai sampai memperhatikan sampah
😂😂😂😂

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