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RE: Why is the Steem Price Low? How Do We Fix It?

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He knows, it is users like him that make video's on YouTube bringing people here with a turnkey way to scam the system, that requires we will always need flags.

He isn't known as Scamfield for just any reason.

And anyone blind to his tactics needs to go too, we have enough sheep to deal with, without adding stupid sheep.

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Bots and the like are technical issues. They should be handled with a technical solution. The flag only complicates that issue. Nothing good can ever come from the flag.

Show me a single censored post and I will agree with you.

I think you and many others are confused between being censored and having your personal payout corrected, all funds removed on a post go back to the community. Like when Jerry boosted this bullshit post above $1,000 the community corrected it as it isn't worth $10. He is very lucky more users do not care about the community or it would be blanked out.

Silencing a voice is censorship by any other name. Taking their money is theft.

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I said show me an example of a comment or post that is not able to be read. If it is able to be seen by any means then it is truly not censored. The "money" is also not yours until it is paid to you by Steemit.com.

Every example above is an example of ownership being taken. It would be like comparing the two of us applying for the same job and if I got the job I "stole" it from you. If the job was not yours, I can not steal it, same as if the payout is not sent to your steem wallet it has also not been stolen, you never OWNED it.

It is still potential earnings. It is still the product of work and time. A fine point, but I think it is still a valid one. Like someone stealing your paycheck out of your bosses hand. The person making a post can spend many hours on it only to have it rendered impotent and by the time you address it the 30 second window of shelf life has already expired. The flag also represents an idea which many (such as myself) will find reprehensible. You must admit it is a very hard sell, and member retention will suffer. Too many BIG problems with the flag. Just the idea that enforcement is in the hands of the miscreants, trolls and spammers makes me a bit uncomfortable making a financial investment. If the flag were dropped membership would soar, member retention would be great.

Seriously, I see no upside to the flag. All I see is it killing the platform slowly.

I left facebook because of censorship to come here and find out it is even worse here.

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You are 1000% wrong, flags are for the enforcement against miscreants, trolls and spammers.

Easy answer for everyone who finds this place to be over censored is to move on, I hear ONO and EOS will be a lot of handholding and Kumbaya singing. Or in your own words FaceBook is better, so go back there.

See that is the point, you can whine here all day and no-one can make you leave. You also do not need to invest a dime into this platform to make any money. Only those trying to turn it into a get rich scheme ever throw around words like investments. This is a social media platform, 1st and foremost, steemit.com is not STEEM. The value of STEEM is not Steemit, Steemit is the fun site built and run on STEEM just as there are others.

At the end of the day the people who want to cry over flags have the right to do so as we do not censor here but no-one is required to care about your feelings either.

I'm simply warning that the goose that laid the golden egg is going to be killed slowly by the flag. And your response is to "go back there" (to facebook). You are all sitting on the edge of greatness. I am not crying for myself, except that I would like to become successful on Steemit, but for everyone here to have the potential to be very successful. Don't get me wrong. Steemit is poised for greatness. Yet it has a flaw. I think the flag is its Achilles heel. If the platform grows we all benefit. I want to thrive here. I don't want to leave. Look at my blog. I am doing my best to be a good content author and posting every day. This is all we should be thinking about as members. Producing good content without the worry your hours of hard work will be rendered impotent before you have a chance at that 30 second window of (real) exposure that you get here.

You are correct about one thing; Facts are facts, and they don't care about your feelings.

If the flag were gone I would consider investing. But not as it currently stands.

I get censored posts as comments on my posts every day.

I can still view every comment on your post, nothing is censored.

You can see the reputation score go into the negative. An example is Biblegateway They have a minus reputation score, And It looks like it got that way by means of religious bias. Imagine what happens when someone posts a picture of a MAGA hat. The door is wide open for religious and political persecution. And with no legal recourse, no due process...just a lynch mob.

They got the negative rep by spamming links to every post that has been posted. There are many bible bumping users in 70+ REP. It is all about presentation, not ideas or thoughts.

Check out @trumpman he has a MAGA Icon and is high rep and high wallet. I have also used a MAGA hat in images. I personally think religious and political views are personal and not meant for the public broadcasting of personal views but I wouldn't waste a flag on either.

So it is a DAPP issue. That is a technical problem with the platform not the abuser. The platform actually is allowing the spamming. The problem of DAPPs therefore needs to be addressed. We shouldn't have to chase the tail of the snake. It needs to be cut off at the head. Technical issues require technical solutions.
There are two issues here. The first issue is miscreant members, the second is the DAPPs. Let's keep those separate for the purpose of clarity. I can't talk to a bot. No one can. Perhaps the bots should not be there in the first place because they give an unfair advantage. That makes it a security issue for the platform to address.

I am not qualified to discuss the DAPPs. I see them as a problem. You should as well. They are taking unfair advantage of the reward pool.

Putting enforcement in the hands of the criminals is not a good plan either.

I don't have all the answers. I do however, see two problems here. The flag and the DAPPs.

With a 30 window of exposure on Steemit, you don't have the luxury of time for defense.