Hey Everyone, It's been a while, and I know I pop in and out these days. I'm not going to promise to be more consistent, because I know I will not be. I've been around curating and watching Hive through the Bear Season, but I'm having difficulty focusing on it right now in my life. Still Hive or the former version of Steem was my first Crypto Love and I always want to see it be successful
Why Hive Needs a Makeover.. Branding, Marketing and Making Friends
So, you know Hive, right? That cool, decentralized place for all sorts of web 3.0 shenanigans? It's got a lot of potential, but man, it's having a rough time getting the attention it deserves. Our community was recently upset by a Graph published by CoinGecko which ranked the SteemIt App above the variety of front-ends on Hive.
Instead of recognizing our tragic marketing and branding, expecting CoinGecko to understand our complex Social Economic Community and how it all fits together is absurd.
A similar issue took place when a Twitter Account run by Andrew Quinn, who identifies as a Web3 expert, didn't even know what Hive was, but mentioned he had heard of Steem. That's not on him, that's on us. However, it did provide an opportunity to present Hive to him and his audience, and boy did a few members of the community step up to do that!
Let's Talk About Looks and Noise
First off, Hive could use some swagger. In a world full of blockchain platforms, it's just not standing out from the crowd. It's like that quiet kid at the back of the class with all the answers, but no one notices because he never raises his hand. The name, makes it difficult to stand apart from other projects with the same name. It needs a pinch of zest, something that makes people stop and say, "Hey, what's this?" If we want people to understand the most popular apps we have are on Hive, where is that being presented? (It isn't)
And then there's the marketing. Hive's got some fantastic features under the hood, but it's like they're a secret. You've got to spell it out for people, especially the non-techy folks. If they don't know why Hive is awesome, they're not going to hop on the bandwagon. The recent Hive race car was cool and a nice start.
Making Friends and Keeping Them
Let's talk about making friends. Hive's not the easiest kid on the block to get to know. It's like trying to join a conversation about quantum physics when you've only just mastered long division. The learning curve is steep, and it scares people off. They need a guide, a friendly hand to show them around and make them feel at home.
And once you've got friends, you've got to keep them. Hive needs to make hanging out more fun. Maybe its educational Quests, or some cool token rewards, or just the feeling that you're part of something exciting. Right now, it's not really hitting the mark. At least stop treating every noob that joins like they are the enemy of Hive and only motivated to scam tokens. Hive and the content front ends work differently than any other Social Media site out there, maybe try education instead of shaming, downvoting and attacking. This issue doesn't just impact the noobs, I frankly dislike posting these days,because there is an underlying tone of, "Dear Whales, am I allowed to earn today?, how much? for how long?" I'm just not that hungry for tokens and it feels humiliating.
There's also the issue of growth. People want to see progress, change, innovation. It's all happening behind the scenes at Hive, but they've got to pull back the curtain and let the audience see the magic, understand the roadmap and help feel like contributors.
Cue the HDF
This is where the Hive Development Fund (HDF) comes in. It's like a treasure chest, just waiting to be used to bring in fresh talent from outside the Hive's social economic circle. Imagine what they could do with a little financial boost from the HDF. Developers could come in, spice things up, and take Hive to the next level. Many are going to respond that the apps need to market not Hive, I argue that every thing has a target market, while Hive doesn't want to or need to market to "End Users" it certianly should be trying to attract developers and apps. I haven't seen any efforts in attracting NEW talent to the chain.
Understanding the Issue
So, there it is. Hive's got a ton of potential, but it needs a makeover. It needs to jazz up its look, shout about its features, make friends easily, and keep them entertained. And with the HDF in its back pocket, it's got a real shot at bringing in some hotshot developers to shake things up. It's going to be a journey, but man, it could be one hell of a ride. It can only happen if people realize the rest of the world isn't getting Hive wrong, the rest of the world knows nothing about Hive, and that's on us.
-- Simplify the Message
The core value proposition of Hive needs to be communicated in a simple, concise, and non-technical manner that can be easily understood by the average person. Developing clear messaging that highlights the benefits of using Hive as a development platform, such as its speed, scalability, and decentralized nature, will make it more attractive to a broader audience.
-- Storytelling and Use Cases
Storytelling is a powerful marketing tool. Hive should focus on sharing success stories of projects that have been developed on its platform. Highlighting real-world use cases and the problems solved by applications built on Hive can inspire potential developers to explore what they can do with the platform. I think of Peakd, Leo, and of course Splinterlands, these stories from the App Developers would create Win/Win situations for both the App and Hive's platform as well.
-- Engage with the Community
Community engagement is critical in the blockchain space. Hive should host regular AMA (Ask Me Anything) sessions, webinars, and virtual meetups to build stronger relationships with its community. This will also provide a platform for users and developers to ask questions, provide feedback, and suggest improvements.
-- Collaborate with Influencers and Thought Leaders
Influencer marketing can help Hive reach a larger audience. Collaborating with influencers and thought leaders in the blockchain and cryptocurrency space can help increase Hive's visibility. These influencers can help spread the word about Hive and attract more developers to the platform.
-- Developer-Focused Content
Creating content that is specifically geared towards developers can help attract them to the platform. This could include tutorials, developer guides, and technical blog posts that delve into the details of developing on Hive.
-- Hackathons and Developer Contests
Hosting hackathons and developer contests can be a great way to attract developers. These events provide a platform for developers to showcase their skills and learn more about the Hive platform. They also provide an opportunity for Hive to identify and reward top talent.
-- Improved Documentation and Developer Resources
Comprehensive, easy-to-understand documentation is crucial for attracting developers. Hive should ensure its documentation is up-to-date, thorough, and well-organized. Additionally, providing resources like SDKs (Software Development Kits), sample code, and development tools can make it easier for developers to start building on Hive.
-- Partnerships with Educational Institutions
Hive could establish partnerships with universities and coding bootcamps to incorporate Hive development into their curriculum. This not only provides students with valuable real-world skills but also exposes Hive to a new generation of developers.
Conclusion
By implementing these suggestions, Hive can significantly improve its marketing strategy and attract more developers to its platform. However, it's crucial to remember that success won't come overnight. It requires consistent effort, continuous iteration based on feedback, and most importantly, patience. But with the right approach, Hive has the potential to significantly expand its developer community and user base.
I haven't written a constructive post on how to improve for a few years, because it mostly feels like just another voice in the crowd yelling, but going on and off the Hive Scene really makes me see and feel the potential again, especially where we see such a need to decentralize journalism and give people options in both content creation and discovery, we have so much potential!
What are your thoughts? Let's discuss in the comments.
Hive does have a serious problem when it comes to the marketing side as the story about is is not out there. Developers are not marketers and things need to change. We have a budget and should be using it in the right places to gain attention globally. There are many people with the marketing skills who could sell Hive through the right channels and it should be the priority.
Yeah and clearly our front ends are competing against each other as shown in the CoinGecko Chart, which is totally fine as long as you are gaining users and stake holders, but we are not.
There is a fairly large set up powerdowns going and per usual bear market usage isn't just down it's way down.
Also though, it's just kind of boring right now or maybe that is just me.
In the bear cycle is the time to really focus on attention so you hit the bull market with some traction.
We need better trolls.
Yes now is when marketing should be at it's strongest all gaining momentum for growth. With a recession looming Hive is in an ideal spot to gain users. Power downs don't scare me as many are growing as fast as they can knowing the importance of this time. Always hear the talk of 1 app going viral to gain attention but Hive is more than that and has so many good things going on.
Developers attempt to play all the other roles in this ecosystem.
Yes their intentions are pure, but they need to stick to their specialty.
Idk about the pure part, but definitely should stick to what they know instead.
Giving them the benefit of doubt here, but agree stick to what you know.
Hi, at first, I am new here. And you are right, it's not easy to start , especially without personal support. And I love the potential of hive, value 4 value.(the other potential I haven't known after a week long usage).
I am still wondering, why I haven't heard about it, only in a Podcast for financial topics @Borsengelaber.
None of my friends have heard about it, although so many are fed up with Facebook and Co . they've simply closed their account.
And I also see a big shortage of marketing, the people should know the platform to give a chance. The people as well, they are not familiar with cryptos and the blockchain technology, but still looking for an alternative for Facebook.
I think, Hive deserves more attention from everyday society.
I will do my best...
First of all, I'm glad you're back to posting once again... Secondly, there's not much I would disagree with you on this one. I have written several posts over the years praising the importance of marketing for Hive, but nobody gave a damn...
While the chain is really a working one and the communities built on the chain are literally changing lives around the world we don't have yet the exposure we deserve.
Personally, I would go for "paid articles" and "crypto influencers dedicated shows" because that's what the crypto community consumes and we need first and foremost the crypto heads to join.
Whether it's devs, content creators, investors, or whatever, as you said the more technical public is easier to onboard than the regular Medium, Facebook, or youtube users.
Maybe Hive will at some point get the marketing it deserves. As mentioned in many of my posts, I would happily donate a small amount of money to such a cause.
Have a great day and I hope you will post more often.
In the first few years, I posted tons of posts about Marketing etc. I come from the Technology Start Up world where we took small companies public. I soon realized that because they mined, they are also experts. Yeah, it's a waste of time, but one more couldn't hurt! :)
Good to see you, for this summer I'll probably be in and out, but I have to visit Hive often, because I have kind of sick love affair with it. "Dear Hive, Your not the (platform) man I want, but you could be. Will you change for me?" lol all in fun
It’s not easy to gain traction with a light hearted account here.
HIVE is way too serious. It needs more fun!
It is a chicken-egg problem to solve, if the existing user base don’t appreciate #lol and #giggles and upvote shitposts like Twitter, then HIVE is stuck with the same audience 😉
I tend to agree there is an old idea left from the early days that Quality is where it is at, but it's really about engagement and it's going to take a while to wipe that away
Exactly. Look at Doge. It’s always been light hearted and in the end a very strong and sticky community.
At the end of the day, HIVE needs massive user growth for the network effect.
Not everyone appreciates spending the time and effort reading long blogs. But that seems to be what the community is mostly focused on.
I don't think many around here know what the Network Effect is, but I agree.
HIVE communities are also a bit fragmented, divided by interest and even language. It’s got the breadth but not the depth and numbers and overall not enough reach.
The most important step is simply get the daily active users number up dramatically.
I feel as if I had a lot of deja vu reading this post.
!discovery 23
Yes, I was inspired by watching the Hive community get defensive with Andrew Quinn, followed by the CoinGecko chart. Also the most recent financial stats from and people thinking everyone else is supposed to RESEARCH US.
that's not how it works.
I'll likely go back to being quiet again. :) But this was a fun reminder of how madly in love with this place I once was
I remember this same debate in many posts from the past... I remember that for me the lack of marketing of STEEM and then HIVE was evident, I remember that many said that the most important thing was Development, and I also believed it, but I have to admit that in the crypto world, marketing is king...unfortunately, because I think that the more decentralized a project is, the less powerful marketing initiatives are launched since it doesn't seem like anyone wants to "invest" time and money for it, despite the DHF that is there waiting for someone to be used...
The truth is that not many people have the time to do good and effective marketing but I support what @acesontop said in his comment and I would also be willing to collaborate on the necessary budget for it if we find a good candidate/company to delegate the work, as I think many other crypto projects do.
In any case, here we are, enduring and hoping... which is no less important 😃.
Btw, nice to read you again here on HIVE
That's what is strange while over the years there have been many users with expertise in Marketing, who would even contribute just out of wanting to see Hive grow, but we've always been hushed. lol
I don't care, and I know making a post of it now isn't going to change anything, but I've seen three or four recent encounters where the community seems to think the rest of the world has a duty to research and understand Hive, that's not going to happen, unless there is a conversation about Hive happening.
That’s correct, if we don’t tell them they won’t know it. There’s enough other Web3 projects out there that do the homework, have the VC money and/or marketing power and „spread the news“. Nobody is waiting just for us to arrive.
Exactly, that's not going to happen...soon
Search feature on hive should also be improved and tags are not always according to the post people write. They sometimes add irrelevant tags just attact whale votes. So this is a big issue we can find quality articles on hive very easily like Google search.
Yes, content discovery is another potential area for improvement, communities help if you to specific ones such as Leo, as much as I love Khal and team, I'm not in the mood to write about finances right now.
Yes communities were really a great addition and to sort out the content. But sometimes the tag selections are not relevant and people should be educated about it.
Agreed, it isn't ideal, maybe someone will build something that can scan the text of your article and offer some tags from keywords
This made me laugh. Very good example that makes a lot of sense!
I am on Hive since 2016 and still don't understand it.
I think a lot of people try to get in the good books of the bigger guys and always vote for them, you will see there are a few accounts that always get high volume and high value votes, never mind the content. They can post "test" and get close to $100.00. It also has to do with auto voting, that try to maximise earnings for the voter.
Yeah that’s right what you said and @doze did also a good post about it recently. Has not only earned him applause 😏
:)
Yeah, I remember you from the early days and the vote distribution issue was addressed, but unfortunately it was over addressed and that also ran off a number of people.
I posted about advertising last week. And the fact that is in desperate need of it, but it really seems that nobody cares… Everybody is minding his own business. I am not content with that, we cannot just hope for a dApp or game to go viral. We need to market Hive all around the net, and it will get picked up. But, it’s idle hope I guess.
Yeah, I don't think we are going to convince everyone, but it had been a while since I made a pitch.
Fully agree with what you said: Marketing has to be improved in order to get our use cases and advantages across. @toofasteddie put the same point that I think: regarding good and consistent marketing the high decentralization is not supportive but obstructive. Too few people really feel responsible and the actions etc. are not coordinated.
The DHF could be in my view a great tool to improve things. Why not fund a proposal of a group of people that take care of this whole marketing? Or maybe several competing ones that are first funded to propose a multidimensional, real good concept and afterwards the best will be funded to get implemented?
The things we currently do are not „disruptive“ enough, not integrative enough since there is things we try and do (Rallye car advertisement, Twitter Posts, Merch articles with Hive Logo etc) but not really coordinated.
AND Hive has to become more „easy“ to understand. Nowadays new onboarded users need a guide, otherwise a lot of them leave after a while because they just don’t understand enough. People are used that things are self explained.
That topic is mainly a Dev topic but also a communication topic and it’s worked on I feel. But it needs as well coordination together with the marketing.
Yeah, but I think it is clear the large stakeholder do not value that, so unless someone wants to put their time into this for free, it's likely to stay the same.
PS - Other thoughts - on that chart Steemit is number two but that is just thousands of Koreans doing shitposts and milking the reward pool - the site is a joke. And Mastodon is number four but it is a complete disaster and will be forgotten history in a few years, probably wiped out by Nostr or some other new system that actually works.
If Hive Blog, Peakd, and Ecency (and any other Hive front ends) were added together the position of Hive would be seven. And Mastodon is just dozens of libtard "instances" with nothing much in common anyway (apart from sucking balls), so shouldn't be counted as one platform. When I tried one I was banned in under 10 mins!
But really these platforms are all insignificant compared to Fakebook...
Twice in the last little bit I've had the opportunity to try to onboard someone here and it's hard. download the apps, get the key chain, understand the various jobs the keys do... etc.
Just the tech is hard, then add the social pressure...
Yeah I think what some of the Hivers were angry with Coingecko about was not knowing that all the apps are Hive apps, but how and why would they know that and lump them together.
In other news.. with many opting to put more into HBD and less in voting power, votes matter more and curation is up a bit. If that trend continues and those who don't want to participate go for the 20 percent Interest on HBD, the content is likely to get better rather than worse, but like all things crypto it takes time.
Very positive as always, shoutout to you!
So much potential, so many easy fixes, and a few big projects could make all the difference in the world.
Yeah, I'm not sure about the potential currently, but we can make a difference for sure.
Well I hope they take some of your suggestions. I probably wouldn't have found Hive blog if I didn't play Splinterlands. It's also pretty tough for those coming onto Hive. I tried to get two friends here but they already quit. Hopefully they make the new user experience better somehow and this part is more linked to your making friends idea. I think that's a great idea.
I feel this too which makes its scary to engage which is kind of the whole point to grow is to engage but if u engage you will get seen more and who knows if you catch the eye of a whale that doesn't like you!
It all was started with big brains, but they need to understand it's traffic and eyes that brings investors, not great content. There is great content everywhere, what you need are consumers, and shit posters to give people something to do between those who continue to do long form posting.
I agree with you here! There's not as much traffic as there could be. THere could be if they didn't scare people away
One of those posts where everything is wrong, here's how to fix it, and don't dare say anything positive in the comment section, unless you want to start a fight. ;)
Not sure that you read the right post, maybe that post is in your head
I wasn't being serious. Upvoted for a reason. But how did you know someone pounded a post into my head?
The on-boarding process needs to be as simple as 1-2-3
The community needs to choose 1 prominent entry point, and not give new people all the options up front as it is too confusing if you haven’t had any experience with HIVE.
New accounts don’t usually get the upvotes, we are not meeting the expectations with positioning that they will “earn” using HIVE. This only sets them up for disappointment and leave.
The amount of “earning” is not great for most people living in country where cost of living and income are high. Pennies don’t mean a lot, but more HP to post by default for these new account would be more valuable. (It’s the same reward, but better positioned)
The original view never saw the content creators as the staple, they are the eyes and ears that bring in the Network Effect. People gather in location and an economy is created, but they got discouraged from the lack of investment from the content creators and decided those people were devaluing their investment.
It's important to understand the whales just aren't that into the content part of Hive and thus have no motive to build it out.
People still use Odysee? I have some tokens on there. I wonder if they're worth anything.
Completely agree - I might be wrong but didn't @lordbutterfly do some work on a marketing initiative that helped raise the profile.
There was also some recent sponsorship of a rally car...
Plenty more to be done as no one else seems to know what we've got here!
Yes, Butterfly did do somethings including the car and a campaign that was wildly successful at getting people to the site, but they didn't sign up..
Those who don't understand marketing took that as a failure, but it was a huge Marketing win and a technology failure. The call to action got people here, but the where they landed had too many steps or lack of information to get them signed up,.
They just don't know how to problem solve from a meaningful evaluations of where did we lose the "Sale"
Yes, there hasn't been NOTHING, but it's not enough in an attention focused economy
He did find the problem with onboarding.
It was literally account creation.
100% agree as I'm guilty as charged. I don't think I've introduced anyone I know to Hive as they simply wouldn't 'get it' in its current format.
Poor UI, too complicated and too small in terms of reach right now.
Peakd has done a lot to help with the UI but it's still not enough when you're pitted against the other social media platforms.
We're still waiting for that 'killa app' I think...
Totally fine with them making a decision at the Hive level to not Market to end users.
If content creators aren't their target market, that means they are selling RCs or marketing to Devs. (RC's take a lot of traffic) and Devs need to understand.. Why Hive?
it's not hard someone just has to do it
They think not marketing to end users means no marketing, but it just means there is a different target audience.
Excellent points that need to be tackled if Hive wants to grow its user base and more importantly, keep these new peeps active and engaged on the platform. Simplicity is absolutely crucial.
Hive has tremendous potential!
Some names in the list weren't known to me and I decided to try some.
Bluesky
I've tried to find their social media and I found:
Join waitlist / Bluesky will launch soon. It looks like the social media doesn't exist. 😀
Minds
I've created an account and clicked the button Join rewards. They asked me to verify my phone. And that was the next:
No verification code. This was my Georgian (country) number. If they don't allow a European country (non-EU, ok), I am sure that they don't allow most of the world. Or their SMS delivery doesn't work today for every country? 😀 A social media which is crumbling apart? 😀 They sucked half an hour of my time, they promised huge future in their shitty promotion videos, but their website just doesn't work properly.
I don't try to defend Hive - I create content and I need different ways of its monetization - I am super open. The problem is that there is nothing to be open to - only marketing bubbles. Mirror? You can't earn there. They talk about selling your posts as NFTs but sold posts are very, very rare and belong to gods and demigods. People join (blogging on ETH, wow!) and leave.
So... Bubbles, bubbles, bubbles. No surprise people can't find Hive in this bubble jungle.
Hive suffers the same problem as minds, too few users.
You can sign up without an email, if you want a burner account.
You do have to kyc to get rewards out, unless you know somebody trustworthy to do it for you.
I sent way, way too much money into the account of a person known only to me through minds, he converted it to eth and sent it back to me.
I paid for a funeral with it.
It was a bug bounty for finding a bug that let me print endless tokens, for a few weeks I was billionaire, until somebody ratted me out.
They let me keep what was >1k usd at the time I cashed it out.
Now it is worth a fraction of that.
So, I might be biased, but they have never said boo to me about what I post and my content is as controversial as I can find.
Don't take the bait when they say post and get paid, unless you think pennies a day is enough for your time.
Practically, I'd like to write an article for HubPages with the topic "Alternatives to Medium.Com". I will mention Hive, Hubpages, Vocal.Media, Quora. What else? In the world of the blockchain, I see no alternatives except Hive. Steemit keeps working, yes, but I know it from inside - I started posting there in spring 2021 before Hive. And I left it in autumn 2021 with the feeling of horror - Steemit is sinking, I can't recommend investing people's time in a dying project.
Thank you for your story and review. You are saying "Don't take the bait when they say post and get paid, unless you think pennies a day is enough for your time" but it looks that things are even worse there.
I tried to verify my phone, but I never got a code, only this:
So, I even can't earn pennies on Minds - you must verify your phone there to start earning. They also actively promote Minds+ upgrades. It means you must pay (for Minds+ 60$ and for Pro 480$ annually minds.com/upgrades) to get maximum from this project, and it gives a very bad feeling.
I am not the only one who feels bad about this. This is a comment on Minds:
Yeah, I wouldn't put any money into it unless you like the features it grants you.
I have been on minds since 2105 and it is still a work in progress.
It suffers the same problems as the others, rich people run it with the interest of rich people in mind.
It is not egalitarian in any aspect as far as rewards go.
Lots of engagement, more rewards.
Pay to play, more rewards.
The common way of enriching the already rich at the expense of naive people that can't math.
I think I did give them a phone number years ago, but I haven't had that phone, or number, for several years.
A burner phone gets around this hurdle.
But, as far as free speech goes, it is good for that.
You can say anything you like and the platform won't hassle you.
It's open source, so if you wanted to run your own instance, you can.
Maybe that can get you around the kyc, I don't know.
It's about the same here in the hive, if you don't care about rewards you can say anything you like.
If you want rewards you brown nose the rich and their lackeys.
Basic crapitalism in action.
The rich people pay, and the poor clean the toilets.
Interesting about Minds...
About Hive, you dramatize. I, for example, just share my images/stories on Hive and get good rewards because Hivers consider I am a good content creator.
I understand it. Minds and Hive can't delete your posts or your account unlike Twitter, etc. If a person wants to do political blogging, that's very important and great.
Yes, you engage in speech they approve of, it is easy to support agreeable speech, but to support 'free speech' one has to upvote things that they do not like.
That ain't happening in the hive, more likely to get downvoted.
Lots of people have been driven away for speaking their truth.
Hive can't delete your post, but the front ends can make them inaccessible outside using a block explorer.
Minds can delete anything it wants, but they do, at least, make an effort of not punishing unpopular speech.
IF you look long enough you will see the falsity of what you think hive is and does.
Not that this in any way affects the tech, still the best tech in the industry and getting better by the day, but the crowd leaves something to be desired, imo.
Then, what's the use of this platform? Though, it doesn't matter... No use. 😀
It was interesting, thank you for this conversation! 🙂
It's okay to defend Hive there are many good things about it.
I'll defend it too, it just could be more than what it is, and if it doesn't grow it's eventually going to be a swap of tokens between Hive and HBD and the Hive Fund and not much else.
For sure. Hive must grow otherwise all these marketing bubbles will choke it. You described the situation well:
Marketing is certainly important but I think we’ve chased off a few marketers before. What was that one girls name who was asking for 40k to market? She seemed okay but people get defensive about spending the DHF or whatever. Suck it up and spend the money!
We've had several attempts, but again I think many don't understand Marketing isn't instant rewards, it's name recognition and usually has at least a 4 month lag.
Yea. Good to see that PeakD had 200k MAU just about, wasn’t it? Or am I off by a 0 and it was 20k lol
It seems simple to me. IF the "Community" (aka. Those that control the vote) wanted better marketing / onboarding etc... they would have it. There is plenty of money in the DHF.
Your post is a great outline for the "Community" to put together a proposal to get voted on and a marketing campaign started; but it will not happen, sadly. This has been the same discussion for the past 5 years and still no action.
A wise man once told me "If you are not growing, you are going"
Unfortunately HIVE as a social media site is going. HIVE is moving towards something else thanks to the folks over at LEO creating derivatives and as Taskmaster is always point out it has the ability to be the foundation of an alternate economy. I believe this is were things are heading.
The original road map never saw the content creators as the staple investors, they are the eyes and ears that bring in the Network Effect. People gather in location and an economy is created, but they got discouraged from the lack of investment from the content creators and decided those people were devaluing their investment.
It's important to understand the whales just aren't that into the content part of Hive and thus have no motive to build it out.
So true the whales definitely have a different view of were this blockchain should be going.
Social media based on "quality" long form blogging is not a money maker anyway. I don't see any other large social media platform based on long form blogging; it is all short form "shit" posting. I'm very curious how the micro-blogging system on LEO will work out, it may have some legs?
https://jryze.me/hive/
We have the tools, but the daily grind tends to move them down the feed.
Then there is this, so perhaps they are only interested in those that refuse the status quo.
If so, that would make any other users chaff.
When I see HIVE Proposals, I could see we all should review these active / funded proposals again. I've noticed that some of these proposals are either unrelated to Hive or simply filled with fancy words but do nothing. It would be better to redirect these funds to more worthwhile developments or atleast use them to market and promote Hive in different spaces.
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Wow you are fired up again - this is like the old days!
I never really gave a toss about marketing - there was a time when I was on Hive for two main reasons - to post content that I was blocked from posting on mainstream platforms, and to earn money from posting and curating.
At one point I had over 250k of HP split between multiple accounts, doing a lot of autovoting, and looking at my old Hive spreadsheet yesterday, I clearly saw it as a business, which as things worked out it was.
At the same time I was posting about stuff like the covidhoax and the injection scam, and that is what got me blacklisted - some of the biggest accounts on Hive are pro globalist and pro narrative, and I never worked out if they are deep state or just total retards.
But in the end I was so fucked off about being downvoted all the time that I powered down, sold the lot, then told some big whales to go fuck themselves and stopped posting on Hive. As it worked out it was a great time to sell Hive and I made truckloads. So those whaletards did me a big favour.
After using a bunch of other platforms for the past two years I now value how well put together Hive actually is - everything works really well - the other sites don't! - and the payouts don't matter to me anymore, as I see now that wanting my $10 payout for each post was what the whaletards had over me - If I don't care and turn off the rewards, their whole carrot and stick control system is buggered.
So if I get back into using Hive again, as well as declining rewards, I also won't be investing or powering up my accounts beyond the 5HP needed for resource credits. The whole thing of linking content to rewards, always seems to lead to a total disaster. At least for anyone trying to expose narratives and agendas it does. For posting pictures of kittens it's fine...
The content and reward police are the worst element of Hive for sure. There are still a couple of magical whales, who know the "value" of a post based on their own worldview. :)
Debate encourages discussion, which provides more usage, but they've bought into the idea that someone needs to non-factually monitor what others think and say, as well as earnings. As I've always said, that's DPOS, and they have the right, but having the right, doesn't make it smart.
Plastic little essays with a word counter and only on allowed topics has never made anything interesting.
They are trying to bore the legs off donkeys
I think you just repeated yourself? Aren't they one and the same LOL
@unmuted, I have some pleasurable reading for you here, dont be tl;dr 😏
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Exactly. This is why I stopped promoting this site again recently. Also why I left a few yrs ago. Plus there are curators that belong to a toxic group. It's secretly become an almost controlling/dictatorial site actually. Unfortunately the few unbiased curators/curator group/s seem to be gone now. Oh well.
Whoever would implement the overhaul would first have to battle it out with some whales. Good luck with that. Haha. Pride is such a sneaky bastard, being one of the 7 deadly sins, it's hard to get rid of it too.
Anyway, I've never heard of Odysee before. Maybe I'll check on that.